Help Maxing DPS with Sweep

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SEOINAGE wrote:

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blankspot wrote:

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Kikklik wrote:

Use concentrated effect and increased area damage. Remove blood magic, get hatred+other auras and 2% mana steal. Concentrated effect is the strongest damage gem you can use, since it will boost everything including elemental damage.

I don't think he can get enough mana to support all that mana reserve and the 6 linked skill, with his current build

Only run hatred? Big dps boost for the weapon.

I know you can support a 5 Link with a fairly small mana pool. If anything his 6L could be reduced mana cost. Question is which performs better, added fire or running hatred aura. You could just run that one aura, have a little more mana, higher mana leech maybe? I run around with 4% mana leech and 100 something mana and it's overkill for 5L.

on paper added fire dmg does more % physical dmg added as element X than hatred + he can opt for the lava lash (30% fire dmg with weapons) passive. Furthmore rolling a blue gem on that armor is a huge pain. The other problem with mana leech is that it caps as a % of max mana, so that may turn out bad

@Op is there a reason reduced mana is linked to portal? I don't have enough currency to buy portal on hc so im kinda lost about that. You can probabaly also use grace for a bit more defense

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blankspot wrote:

@Op is there a reason reduced mana is linked to portal? I don't have enough currency to buy portal on hc so im kinda lost about that. You can probabaly also use grace for a bit more defense

I haven't been able to get it 4-linked yet lol. I just hit 70 and currently have 4115 health with 315 health/per second for regen. Ultimately I need to hit level 79 to reach my goal on what I was thinking of trying (not sure if its going to work but fun trying lol). Was thinking if I can manage to hit 5k health by 79 (still have 4 8% and 2 12% health nodes to hit) and have close to 400 health/sec was going to run Vitality and another aura to put me at the "low on health" state.While on the low on health, was thinking of trying Blood Rage which gives me 41% increased attack speed an additional 7% life leech. No idea how this is going to turn out but its a work in progress.

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spixlod wrote:

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blankspot wrote:

@Op is there a reason reduced mana is linked to portal? I don't have enough currency to buy portal on hc so im kinda lost about that. You can probabaly also use grace for a bit more defense

I haven't been able to get it 4-linked yet lol. I just hit 70 and currently have 4115 health with 315 health/per second for regen. Ultimately I need to hit level 79 to reach my goal on what I was thinking of trying (not sure if its going to work but fun trying lol). Was thinking if I can manage to hit 5k health by 79 (still have 4 8% and 2 12% health nodes to hit) and have close to 400 health/sec was going to run Vitality and another aura to put me at the "low on health" state.While on the low on health, was thinking of trying Blood Rage which gives me 41% increased attack speed an additional 7% life leech. No idea how this is going to turn out but its a work in progress.

I'm sure you have mana ways to test this cause its softcore. you can try using blood magic gems on ur attcks and running ur % auras on mana more survival. Remember life leech is capped as % of max life so up to a point additional lifesteal will be useless

I ended up replacing the Added Cold Damage support gem with a Concentrated Effect and im currently level 75. My dps jumped to 6174 with my sweep, and sitting at 4696 hp. Fun character but the sync issues drives me bonkers at times.

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ZeuZLoD wrote:

I ended up replacing the Added Cold Damage support gem with a Concentrated Effect and im currently level 75. My dps jumped to 6174 with my sweep, and sitting at 4696 hp. Fun character but the sync issues drives me bonkers at times.

Yeah, remember d2 had desync issues that never got fixed. wonder if they will fix it in this game, major annoyance. One of the reasons I like my sweep templar, has huge aoe, so when I sweep it's going to hit regardless of sync. Only problem if something bad happens he is vaal pact so doesn't get hits in he dies. I also have a sweep marauder that's ezmode in my opinion, still wouldn't do sweep on hardcore with the games current state, too easy to get screwed.

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SEOINAGE wrote:

Yeah, remember d2 had desync issues that never got fixed. wonder if they will fix it in this game, major annoyance. One of the reasons I like my sweep templar, has huge aoe, so when I sweep it's going to hit regardless of sync. Only problem if something bad happens he is vaal pact so doesn't get hits in he dies. I also have a sweep marauder that's ezmode in my opinion, still wouldn't do sweep on hardcore with the games current state, too easy to get screwed.

Oh yea I remember D2 having that issue, but that was what 10+ years ago and i'd hope we would have the technology to overcome that type of behavior by now lol. I just hope that GGG gets to the root of the problem rather soon. Sweeper is definitely easy mode though solo, but grouping with some friends that are ranged its almost pointless to play on a melee as everything is dead even before I even get to the mob to do a sweep lol. Even though Sweep Mara is fun, no point in melee when ranged is far superior.

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5L'ing your Marohi will help a lot. My advice would be blood magic support for your sweep to be able to run hatred/haste. With about only 1-2% mana leech, you can easily afford HS with only ~100ish mana (even on half regen).

My dps on sweep, fully buffed, ~7400ish w/o fenzy charges. (lvl 85)

Currently im looking into mana reservation talents to see if running another percent aura will be worth it.

Lastly, like someone mentioned above...there is a "cap" on life leech. For me, around 5-6% life leech with my dps will fulfill the leech cap per sec on 2 targets.

EDIT** Looking back over your build, I'm actually confuse how you even support sweep on a mana base to begin with...Do you spam mana potions???