[2.6] Cast on Weapon Swap

Hi

Squirrel_of_doom notice to me that fact few reply before.

When you swap you take 1050 damage but not in ONE hit.
You take 350+350+350 = 1050 so 3 hits at 350 damage so Cloak in Savagery didn't trigger.
You have to take 15% of your life In ONE hit to trigger Cloak in Savagery.

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satanttin wrote:

Question i love this idea i'm trying it atm level 58 got 2 insanity weapons a 6l staff and a elemental mace. used the exact gem setups and have vaal pact and the berserker node that gives 100% life leech but it doesn't always seem to leech life i have 2.2k life and lose 1050 life each swap. so i basicly should be berserker all the time? which is sadly not the case. is it not working anymore or did ui made a mistake somewhere?

I've noticed that sometimes when I'm going after a straggler or two and I insta-kill them I don't seem to get any leech. I'm not sure why that is, but it only happens when there are no mobs left around me so it's not very dangerous.

Why do you feel like Abyssus + pure life is going to be particularly worse than the current version? Just taking a scary amount of damage from the swap relative to EHP?

Abyssus is not a good idea.
You take higher physical damage, so you can raise your maximum hp, but the eHP vs physical damage stays the same, it's just better for elemental damage and it takes more tree nodes to get the necessary hp to get the same eHP vs physical.
Really not worth as this build is not using any of the damage boosts from abyssus and i'd much rather have life/resistances or spell damage via scold for example in that slot.

If you want to have decent hp pool (only necessary for red maps and bosses), I believe you should just give up cloak of savagery selfproc. It's still proccing pretty often, just run into a mob pack and with 8khp, you just need any of the mob to hit you for 1200 damage.

For 3.0, the ES buffer is dead, i'm trying a MoM version, helps a bit, but the mana definitely depletes fast and without instant leech it's only a temporary buffer, still like having 400hp/s regen on top of vaal pact. Sadly i don't think i'll be able to find acuities in the 2W turmoil lol.

Fucking pain in the ass to play life though. I've put more than half of my points in defense and at 76 i'm not even at 4k yet. I think i'll have to 5-offcolor a belly and every good life rare is armor which doesn't help.

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viperesque wrote:

Why do you feel like Abyssus + pure life is going to be particularly worse than the current version? Just taking a scary amount of damage from the swap relative to EHP?

It's as Squirrel said, the phys ehp would be significantly less. It might've been workable if phys damage wasn't so prevalent.

Belly is "only" 4 off-color with cwdt-gmp so it's not super terrible.

Good point, I've checked the cost is around 800 chromes, which is a bit higher than offcoloring via vorici but doesn't require vorici 6. Anyway after some thoughts I do not want belly anymore.

MoM is definitely not working, this build takes too much damage, so the effective hp is not increased by 40%, sadly the only possible fix is a 40ex pair of acuities. So this means I can't really have high eHP like my assassin where I could hit myself for smaller portion of my hp and I need the consistency of perma cloak of savagery. Otherwise i'm dying way too much i'm already having a hard time progressing at level 80.

So I think i'll give up on belly, give up on MoM and stay at ~4khp, a bit more when i get uber izaro.

If I manage to farm well before the end of the race, I'll try the high budget version to play with bosses. I'm pretty sure it's possible to reach 8k eHP with mom and acuities. Not sure I can farm enough though, will totally be an option for 3.0, maybe not for the race.

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MoM is definitely not working, this build takes too much damage, so the effective hp is not increased by 40%

Have you try with the Node and the items which have "Damage taken gained as Mana when Hit"
such :

http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Battle_Rouse

http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Spirited_Response

http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Praxis

http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Victario%27s_Flight

http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Mindspiral

Maybe if you pick some you can more substain your mana so keep "Mind Over Matter" up.

Yeah i've thought a bit about it. I don't think it's sustainable below at least 20% back. My mana used to stay very close to 0 when i'm spamming swap.


Battle rouse is only 3% and is super far in my tree, doesn't seems worth it.

Praxis is a ring so not an option as you need 2 heartbound loop otherwise it's too slow.

Victario's flight and mindspiral are possible options, but it's 2 more uniques with low res, no life and pretty shit stats.


There are also corruptions, but only place left is amulet for 6%, need to find a good one though. I think right now there's just 1 with decent stats.


Rallying cry could be an option. 20% for 2 jewels and 1 gem slot seems ok. Kinda breaks the flow but once every 10s or only vs bosses seems ok. Too bad it doesn't work with CWDT.
I'll probably give it a try once I get money for a good belly, so far i'm pretty poor in turmoil, but I've almost finished shaping my atlas and should be able start real farming soon.


On another topic I don't get why cloaked in savagery is not listed in the buff list, I would really like to know when it's not up.

Okay, there's another huge problem with the Abyssus approach - armour. Wearing Abyssus + Kaom's means that you have enough armour to prevent about 20% of the Heartbound hits, meaning that you can only go up to about 6k life. Utterly pointless. :(

Also, for the damage gained as mana thing that's getting changed from instant to over 4 seconds for most sources in 3.0. Not going to work well.

Raynquist - would you mind making your characters public so we can just import the build in PoB? Building it from scratch is annoying.

Is it still stacking in 3.0?

If it stacks it's just delayed regen, so vs bosses you would still get tons of mana back.

If it doesn't yeah, just plain sucks lol.