Development Manifesto - Energy Shield and Life - Forum

Congratulations on balancing and fixing the 1% of players/builds that cost > 25ex and were overpowered. Congratulations as well on destroying the 95% of builds that us normal people used and were never overpowered to begin with.	Posted by ParadoxiEvia#5105 on May 18, 2017, 9:33:16 AM Quote this Post
" Nekecske wrote: " Mef wrote: These chages look like a stupid overnerf. I'm fine with changes to Vaal Pact and Zealot Oath, but what the hell are you doing with ES stats? I really hoped you were going to BUFF life-based builds to make em viable, not to NERF ES ones, because it's not ES builds are OP, it's life-build that are completely useless if one's going to make it to the end-game content. Who are you looking at, GGG? 25000 ES pre nerf? Really, GGG? I'm not a 24/7 player and can't afford 1500 ex worth of gear in a temp leage, though i am still able to make it to 90 on a new HC league. I havn't ever had a CI character with more then 11k ES, that was absolute maximum for me, and the gear on this char was really good, that i'v been farming for like a month. Very disappointed. Dont be sad, or upset...they are trying to bring balance. This isnt that huge as u think, like rather then put everything on ES, u may consider to use other defense mechanics or hybrid gear. And yes it's the ES build that push u to the end game in the shortest way. Wait for it! :) Peace Well, i tried a lot to make my life-based builds viable, but pretty much all of them ended up being one-shot on a high-tier map. Last league i played life based caster with kaom and mom, 9k effective life pool, and it was rect in uberlab at like lvl 89. I'm not a super fan of ES builds, i just dont see a way, at least for myself, to get to guardians or shaper as a life-bsed character. IGN: Invasion: pewewPewpepppewePwepw Onslaught: SporkDatShitOutaThem Softcore: DualSporkIsHere Last edited by Mef#2378 on May 18, 2017, 9:33:59 AM	Posted by Mef#2378 on May 18, 2017, 9:33:20 AM Quote this Post
Rarity: Unique Shavronne's Wrappings Occultist's Vestment -------- Quality: +20% Energy Shield: 1 -------- Requirements: Level: 72 Str: 72 Dex: 159 Int: 180 -------- No sockets -------- 10% increased Spell Damage -------- 1% increased Energy Shield 1% faster start of Energy Shield Recharge +3% to Lightning Resistance Reflects 1 to 25 Lightning Damage to Melee Attackers Chaos Damage Bypasses Energy Shield sometimes. -------- IGN : Relithh , Stronkberry	Posted by relithh#7305 on May 18, 2017, 9:33:37 AM Quote this Post
" Toliman wrote: " Rippster wrote: I see a lot of talk about a "buff" to life, is that what you call a buff? It's still going to be crap because PoE one-shot mechanics are silly. making all the 4% and 5% nodes 6% and throwing in some additional armor would do the job. This was an opportunity to make Life a more quality based HP pool with more percent mitigation and leave ES in the good place it is in. That way everyone wins. i hope GGG gets it together and rethinks these nerfs. ha. ha. funny joke. we all laugh.	Posted by smkbby#5415 on May 18, 2017, 9:35:52 AM Quote this Post
" relithh wrote: Rarity: Unique Shavronne's Wrappings Occultist's Vestment -------- Quality: +20% Energy Shield: 1 -------- Requirements: Level: 72 Str: 72 Dex: 159 Int: 180 -------- No sockets -------- 10% increased Spell Damage -------- 1% increased Energy Shield 1% faster start of Energy Shield Recharge +3% to Lightning Resistance Reflects 1 to 25 Lightning Damage to Melee Attackers Chaos Damage Bypasses Energy Shield sometimes. -------- "The game flips a coin and if tails, chaos damage will bypass ES now. We rearranged this mechanic because Shavronne's Wrappings allowed too often people to run 2 auras just reserving their life. Now players will have to shit in their pants occasionally, in order to balance low life builds."	Posted by Giammafix#2456 on May 18, 2017, 9:39:36 AM Quote this Post
" bhavv wrote: " simoniknow wrote: " Theres a video doing the rounds in GD that someone posted to try and prove that ES is overpowered at shaper. The character had 8k ES and didnt once get hit to below 5k. At one point he dipped to 2.5k es due to making the mistake of standing in the degen beam for too long. Aint no reason then why people cant do shaper with 4k HP, life regen and flasks. He was playing a trapper so easily avoiding damage. OK, probably just me being a noob, have not seen the video please link. And the guy is not using legacy gear cosing +100 ex. a piece like broken legacy vinktar either ? Literally just 8k ES and mines: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkszLRitBZ0 No one shot damage of much more than 3k anywhere, just degen beam to 2.5k which can be avoided / flasked if you are life. Nice one, thanx for the link. The question is, if it is es build that is op or arc mine build !	Posted by simoniknow#5742 on May 18, 2017, 9:39:42 AM Quote this Post
BUT ES CAN NOT MITIGATE DAMAGE AS EFFECTIVE AS LIFE! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mR0MCphu03M	Posted by maxkardinal#4987 on May 18, 2017, 9:41:45 AM Quote this Post
No idea where your numbers are coming from...obviously someone who doesn't actually play the game. I've never had over 7k life or 11k es.	Posted by KungFusedMike#3670 on May 18, 2017, 9:43:01 AM Quote this Post
" simoniknow wrote: Nice one, thanx for the link. The question is, if it is es build that is op or arc mine build ! You could easily do that with 4-6k life if you had the same offense, speed and a life flask if hit with the degen beam. (b) Personal abuse, foul language, inappropriate subject matter, obscene, harassing, threatening, hateful, or discriminatory or defamatory remarks of any nature ... are not permitted. - PoE TOS.	Posted by bhavv#7360 on May 18, 2017, 9:43:26 AM Quote this Post
Guys, the fact you have "seen characters reaching over 25,000 Energy Shield while still having the damage output to sufficiently complete all of the content in the game." is certainly true, I have also seen them. But on YouTube... It's clear that ES needed some balancing, but you should really consider the majority of the player base. How about people that have around 7-9k ES? When this nerf takes place these "mediocre" ES builds will become totally unplayable considering the natural disadvantages of ES. Let's call it a pure nerf btw, that's what it is, it doesn't even adress the problems of life builds other than by nerfing their ES colleagues to ground. Again, I did expect you would try to balance ES and Life builds ofc, but I think you have gone a bit too far regarding ES, if not the wrong way in general. Let's hope the beta will show you how to approach this problem appropriately so that it becomes a proper balance.	Posted by pathfinding#6624 on May 18, 2017, 9:47:11 AM Quote this Post