[2.6] Ngamahu Molten strike / Cyclone combo | Fast Clearing | Deathless Shaper and t16s! | Videos
If you can't afford a Xophs is it worth getting Avatar of Fire on the skill tree it's only an extra 3 points and then you have the 100% fire conversion?
Save your money. 6 link axe is useless. You just need 6 sockets because socketed gems support the weapon's skill and not a skill in the link. So no need any link at all.
Save your money. 6 link axe is useless. You just need 6 sockets because socketed gems support the weapon's skill and not a skill in the link. So no need any link at all.
But we have to run molten strike (skill from gem, not from the axe) in axe if kaoms heart, if not you can do 6l in chest piece. 6l is required if you want equip kaom's heart.
I elected to use Belly of the Beast instead of Kaom's. This allows better focus on the Molten Burst links. I went with Starkonja's as a helm. Partially to compensate for some of the HP lost without Kaom's. It's also pretty strong on its own with the IAS and dexterity for requirements. Basically a trade-off taking more HP for the 20% MS and 6% higher attack speed of Devoto's.
Xoph's seems to be vastly superior for Molten Burst, but only marginal upgrade for Molten Strike and Cyclone over a strong rare. Unless the enemy is covered in Ash from a hit, then it's vastly superior all around. Incredibly strong for the build, but at the cost, a solid rare will do you fine until you can afford it.
As for the tree, I felt EO took too many points to reach, and RT right there on the path. Not dealing with a conditional effect or needing any accuracy on gear is nice. EO may have more potential with great gear, but I elected for RT.
Staying on the southern path, Wrecking Ball is an incredibly strong 4-point node. On the left side, taking Cleaving is a really strong flat physical boost. Point Blank is essential with both Molten Strike and Molten Burst being used. Well worth the points to travel to it.
I went north from Vaal Pact to grab Coordination (AS%), Blood Siphon for Life/STR, and Trickery for Elemental Damage. Also brings another 20 DEX and INT to help with requirements.
Going north from the Marauder start allows another jewel slot, which I wanted to maximize with two of them used for Wildfire. It also puts the Scion life wheel in range for effective use.
I've been zipping through T13/14s so far, and looking forward to giving 15s and Guardians a shot as I fill out the Atlas more. I was easily able kill to Uber Izaro, albeit on an easy full-key day (Portals/Lieutenants). Full charges may require some dodging to avoid a one-shot, but the damage is easily there.
Incredibly satisfying to play. Vaal Cyclone is especially fun (except with you don't notice the Frost/Flame/Storm Bearers X_X)
Hi if you don't want to go to EO try this. More life more DPS. Issue is you need about 85 INT on gear.
I pick up IR too. Well cause I'm limited by SSF and founded evasion stuffs along with axe.
That's really interesting. Being able to grab Primeval Force is great, it's such a strong cluster. My biggest concern is yours is a 116-point tree where mine was only 111. The least impactful nodes to remove from your tree are probably the 3-point jewel socket and Fury Bolts. At that point, the 2 extra jewel sockets I have are up to 14% life which puts the defense around the same values. 2 jewels also offer up some pretty strong offense as well.
Definitely gonna check out the tree in Path of Building and see how it looks. Primeval Force might be worth the pathing.
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ezekiel91 wrote:
Save your money. 6 link axe is useless. You just need 6 sockets because socketed gems support the weapon's skill and not a skill in the link. So no need any link at all.
This build used Kaom's Heart and Molten Strike, so a 5 or 6 linked axe is required with that gearing.
Save your money. 6 link axe is useless. You just need 6 sockets because socketed gems support the weapon's skill and not a skill in the link. So no need any link at all.
But we have to run molten strike (skill from gem, not from the axe) in axe if kaoms heart, if not you can do 6l in chest piece. 6l is required if you want equip kaom's heart.
My mistake. I don't see molten strike! I was thinking that you proc the axe with your 4-link cyclone.
Next time I need to open my eyes before my mouth :)
Appreciate the work for drafting up a build. Seems Ngamahu's is quite strong to use for a secondary clearing skill. That being said, I was wondering if anyone could share thoughts on Brutus' Lead Sprinkler Molten Strike compared to your Ngamahu Molten Strike Setup. The BLS tree I have been working on is:
I think a reasonable amount of strength one would get with gear is probably around 1200? I don't know if anyone has anything to say about BLS' weapon DPS vs. the lesser weapon DPS but 20% pen and extra meatballs in Ngamahu.
That's really interesting. Being able to grab Primeval Force is great, it's such a strong cluster. My biggest concern is yours is a 116-point tree where mine was only 111. The least impactful nodes to remove from your tree are probably the 3-point jewel socket and Fury Bolts. At that point, the 2 extra jewel sockets I have are up to 14% life which puts the defense around the same values. 2 jewels also offer up some pretty strong offense as well.
Definitely gonna check out the tree in Path of Building and see how it looks. Primeval Force might be worth the pathing.
HI, For 111 pts I would just leave off the Ranger life/evasion and IR. Still 4 jewels. Much more DPS.
So one less jewel socket in exchange for Primeval wheel seems worth it. You could also drop Fury bolts in exchange for two life/evasion node by Ranger.
So something like this (check it out and LMK) I always level to 95ish so sorry about that:P
180% (but you can get 187% with your extra jewel socket) vs 184% life and a lot more DPS to make up missing EO.
That's really interesting. Being able to grab Primeval Force is great, it's such a strong cluster. My biggest concern is yours is a 116-point tree where mine was only 111. The least impactful nodes to remove from your tree are probably the 3-point jewel socket and Fury Bolts. At that point, the 2 extra jewel sockets I have are up to 14% life which puts the defense around the same values. 2 jewels also offer up some pretty strong offense as well.
Definitely gonna check out the tree in Path of Building and see how it looks. Primeval Force might be worth the pathing.
HI, For 111 pts I would just leave off the Ranger life/evasion and IR. Still 4 jewels. Much more DPS.
So one less jewel socket in exchange for Primeval wheel seems worth it. You could also drop Fury bolts in exchange for two life/evasion node by Ranger.
So something like this (check it out and LMK) I always level to 95ish so sorry about that:P
180% (but you can get 187% with your extra jewel socket) vs 184% life and a lot more DPS to make up missing EO.
you dont need more damage.... this build has alot of damage already, im not seeing the point to grab more damage when its enough to do shaper already.
and you lose life too, which damage vs life always prioritize life first
Last edited by 69wanted69#2887 on Mar 29, 2017, 10:13:51 PM
I literally said, you have to waste 5 points to get to scion life wheel. Traveling to vaal pact gives a lot more efficient life than going to scion area. Traveling there costs too much and gives you nothing and only good thing you can grab by traveling there is a jewel socket. Not to mention you have sacrafice something to go there because tree already posted in thread is like lvl 95/96. I really dont know what answer did you expect. You spend 7 points to get minimum of 19% increased life (2.71 life per point). If you get full wheel, its still about 3.75% life per point including points you need to get there. For example, flask/life nodes in ranger area costs 4 points and gives you 20% life and flask stuff (4% life per point). Even thick skin is more efficient than going there. If you think its worth it go for it, but I gave you arguments why its not worth it. You can do the tree and compare yourself if you dont believe me. Your question was
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scion life wheel? Can it be an alternate to grab? Or is it too far away from the important stuff to grab?
So, the answer is: yes, its too far away and not too eficient to lose important stuff.
TL;DR: Pathing there costs too much, not efficient way to spend points. You gain nothing compare to the tree you have posted there.
Now this is the type of response I wanted thank you. It took you a few replies unfortunately though.
holy fuck seeing this shit triggers me so much, he just explained why its not worth it why do you insist on a yes no answer? you had a dumb idea, he fucking tells you why. Now stop being annoying.
