[2.6 Legacy SC] PF CI Glasscanon Budget Elemental Wander

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Austhern wrote:

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ScootaLewis wrote:

Also, if anyone could check my gear and see what upgrades I could make, that'd be swell. Damage is feeling a bit lacking in T8's.

Ok so first of all, you're still missing half of your Ascendancy points at lvl 86?

Gear-wise, your rings give almost no damage, I would upgrade those first. Aim for 35%+ WED, 250+ accuracy and/or %attack speed with some flat added lightning damage. Removing my own rings, I lose like 30% of my damage if I remember well, so that's a pretty big deal.

I see you're not using Enlighten 3 nor the 4% reduced mana reserved Scion node, don't you have some mana problems? If not, then cool for you.

Also, I see so many people who skip the jewel slots in the tree, I have no idea why one would do that because they give like 3k dps each with the right rolls.

If your problem is with single target damage, then save for a +2 barrage hubris, they're around 3ex I think.

Yeah, getting Merc lab done has been...tricky. Every time I try, something stupid happens and I swear off the lab for a few more days. I generally ignore Uber lab. I doubt I'll be pushing Guardians regardless.

I have 131 mana unreserved with my gear and setup - I actually grabbed the mana/flask nodes under Ranger, and they're lovely. If I get lucky and vaal an Enlighten to 3, I can drop a node as well.

Rings, good point. I always underestimate what they do for damage. Getting the WED, flat, and resists is going to be expensive, though - 30 wed, 20 average ele damage, and 100 res is 70c+. And I need that res - my other gear is not particularly heavy on those.

Jewel slots I consider endgame upgrades, but i guess if they give more damage then I can start prioritizing them. In fact, if I drop the area cluster at witch, I could get two or three jewel sockets...

I guess it's just gonna be a case of getting Jewels as I level, getting Merc lab done, and then finally trying to get more friggen res on my non-ring items without breaking the bank. if I can just get 40-50 total res on my shield and helm, that'd leave me around 180 total res to get across rings, and if I'm slightly undercapped then whatever, Wise oak will take care of it.

Thanks, man. I always assume upgrades are going to be one big issue instead of a bunch of small optimizations.

Hi Guys!

Awesome Build, I love Builds that utilize Incandescent Heart, BUT I struggle with single Target, I can kill Bosses like Xoph with 1 RIP/Portal and facetank 2key Merc-Izaro.
I don't have 13ex for 2 Items, what about a little bit of Poisen? We allready use Heart and Atziri Flask, thats up to 35% of EleDmg as Chaos, with Master Alchemist instead of Nature's Adrenaline us poor Guys could improve our Bossing capabilities... Is there a flaw in my Logic? :D

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Austhern wrote:

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Arruke wrote:

EDIT: BTW 2 proj barrage enchants are around 8ex right now on legacy standard, which is why I haven't got one yet. They were expensive last league as well but not quite this expensive, seems like there's less people running lab this league.

Holy shit I didn't know the price went up so quickly :x
Just last week I was struggling to sell my old +2 Hubris for 3.5ex so I thought the price was still pretty stable. Guess I'll go run some labs and hope for fat profit.

At 8ex, I think it's better to get a Dying Sun first, they're around 400c atm and boost your clear speed too.

Yeah, I would love to buy even a white ilvl 84 hubris with +2 enchant for 3.5ex. I have 1056c right now and the upgrades I have left before I'm going to kill guardians and shaper are dying sun and the barrage helmet and I can't buy both of them right now even with 1050c it's pretty annoying.

What is your accuracy / chance to hit at btw? I have 90, but if I swap my helmet for one without accuracy, I'll have 87 with ice golem up. I'm not really sure if that's enough, mainly because I don't play attack builds that often.

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_Daath_ wrote:

Hi Guys!

Awesome Build, I love Builds that utilize Incandescent Heart, BUT I struggle with single Target, I can kill Bosses like Xoph with 1 RIP/Portal and facetank 2key Merc-Izaro.
I don't have 13ex for 2 Items, what about a little bit of Poisen? We allready use Heart and Atziri Flask, thats up to 35% of EleDmg as Chaos, with Master Alchemist instead of Nature's Adrenaline us poor Guys could improve our Bossing capabilities... Is there a flaw in my Logic? :D

It's actually up to 42.5% added as chaos damage because of 50% flask effectiveness :)

I just ran a simulation on Path of Building, using my gear without +2 Barrage and Atziri's Promise instead of Dying Sun against a standard boss (calculations including shock + point blank + Wise Oak's penetration) :

Nature's Adrenaline (no poison)
1,589,662.9 effective DPS

Master Herbalist (poison)
1,685,959.0 effective DPS inc. poison

Master Herbalist + Nature's Adrenaline without Veteran Bowyer
1,728,516.9 effective DPS inc. poison

So yeah it does add 6.058% more damage against bosses if you replace Nature's Adrenaline with Master Herbalist, but you get more damage and more movement speed if you remove Veteran Bowyer instead because the attack speed scales the poison netting you 10.873% more damage.

Interestingly, even with Dying Sun + Barrage enchant, using Master Herbalist instead of Veteran Bowyer gives slightly more single target damage, from 3,160,921.0 to 3,174,407,4 DPS (0.427% more).

So I think it might be worth it if you don't have additional projectiles, definitely an interesting idea!

Well, thats's pretty bad! I mean, 6& more dmg against Bosses vs 25%? Movementspeed! I was hoping the Poisen solves Singletarget without +Proj, but 6% dmg is nothing! i guess i have to get PoB to run Numbers by myself.... :D

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_Daath_ wrote:

Well, thats's pretty bad! I mean, 6& more dmg against Bosses vs 25%? Movementspeed! I was hoping the Poisen solves Singletarget without +Proj, but 6% dmg is nothing! i guess i have to get PoB to run Numbers by myself.... :D

Yeah that's because we don't have a lot of double dipping action going here :P

I know, but still, it's Poisen vs 15% attackspeed with a Difference of 6% for a loss of 10% Movementspeed. It could be far more than 6% if you use a decent wand thats not picators, but Performance vs Budget Overall Picators is still better even with all that chaosscaling from Heart and Atz Flask...

Hey, thank for sharing your build. Here are some thoughts, what if i take Master Surgeon instead of Veteran Bowyer, correct me if im wrong but i think with Master Surgeon, we have Vinktar up all the time even during boss fight, so with vinktar's leech, we dont need to go all the leech node below the duelist area. We use tree like this www.poeurl.com/bgMU, take bloodrinker and mana leech and we save fews point, the problems is with 5-6 point we saved, u guys think we can cover the dps loss when we dont have Veteran Bowyer (mostly 10% pen).
Sorry for my bad english.

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thinhme wrote:

Hey, thank for sharing your build. Here are some thoughts, what if i take Master Surgeon instead of Veteran Bowyer, correct me if im wrong but i think with Master Surgeon, we have Vinktar up all the time even during boss fight, so with vinktar's leech, we dont need to go all the leech node below the duelist area. We use tree like this www.poeurl.com/bgMU, take bloodrinker and mana leech and we save fews point, the problems is with 5-6 point we saved, u guys think we can cover the dps loss when we dont have Veteran Bowyer (mostly 10% pen).
Sorry for my bad english.

After the flasks recharge on crit nerf, it's not possible to have Vinktar's up permanently because you can only gain 5 flask charges per second, and this is shared across all flasks. So you can only do that if you ONLY use Vinktar's or Vinktar's + Overflowing Chalice during boss fight, losing Diamond flask, Wise Oak, Atziri's or Dying Sun, etc. which I feel is not worth it.

You still need to take Point Blank in your tree, so 3 points for Blood Drinker (0.4% life leech) is strictly worse than 3 points for the first node in Vitality Void (0.4% life and mana leech).

If you use Incandescent Heart (up to 1% life leech), you can drop Vitality Void and use Essence Sap's first node to cover mana leech. Then, you can use the points you saved to continue to Heartseeker and the jewel slot.

I've updated my gear. Got some incredible boots and upgraded my rings for a total of 50c. KB tooltip in hideout went up about 200; sitting at 15.5k now. All flasks up, 26k. 14k Barrage, up to 23k all flasks.

I reckon I could probably take on a t10 today.