[3.2] SRS/Zombies Necromancer

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ArTHeiM wrote:

hi) like the build.but i have a little qestion. Is it possible to use summon skeletone insted of SRS?
seams not realy as a old scool summoner to me)

Yes, you can use skeletons instead of SRS.

How to build with skeles:
1. Get 1 From Dust and 2 Dead Reckoning jewels for skeleton mages.
2. Replace haste with anger and link it with generosity.
3. Drop Ahn's Heritage shield and fragility jewels and replace with victario's charity and get necromantic aegis to help with minion speed.
4. Replace SRS gems in body with this: Summon Skeleton - Minion Damage - Controlled Destruction - LMP/GMP - Spell Echo - Pierce

Skill tree: 117 points

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Pirate_pope wrote:

Hey Dupie,

Love the build and been having a ton of fun. My only question is I seems to be having a bit of mana trouble. I have a pool of 978 mana with 930 of it reserved between hatred and haste. This leaves me with 48 mana which isn't enough to raise more zombies or use clarity. I've checked the skill tree ten times over and have followed your guide explicitly. Is there something I'm missing? Thanks for the help.

I can't see your character but 930/978 mana means you are reserving more than the 86% after all the aura reservation nodes. Make sure you have sovereignty in the tree on the top left and that your hatred is linked with generosity and haste on its own, don't link your auras. I can't say because I can't see your character.

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ConDogGod wrote:

Thanks for the build mate.
Followed it to a t. Hit level 94 yesterday and finally farmed up enough to by a HH today. 2/4 guardians down at the moment. Don't think ill transition into a shaper or uber atziri viable build. Ive tried both once and couldnt handle it, probably due to lack of experience. This was a perfect build to start a league with which could transition into T15's when ready. Can currently handle any mod T15 shaped courtyards with 6 sextants going.

Glad it has worked out for you :). Grats on the HH and it must be fun mapping, as for guardians with a united in dream they are a lot easier but shaper unfortunately is just so much easier on spectres, pure SRS, golems.

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Ishabooo wrote:

Hey, just reached mapping using the leveling gem links, now i'm a little confused on how I should transition to your gem links based on the hardcore+block variant?


Here's my gear:

Spoiler

I know faster casting isn't supposed to be in the ring, lmao. Just very low on chromatics.

Also I know you stopped using generosity w/ hatred so.... am I running it + determination for myself rather than my minions?

I gotta get a bone helm soon also for the +2 minions.

You are using determination for yourself, and you want to keep up endurance charges as it makes mapping and lab a lot safer especially when you are facing a lot of enemies. As for the auras just use hatred + purity of elements to make over capping for ele weakness easier until you have an enlighten 3, then use determination. We don't use generosity as we are pressed for links and I would rather have stone golem. Once you have enlighten 3 and determination focus on getting more armor on your gear.

Ahh okay! Forgive me for asking but if I'm not using Ahn's Courage and using Lioneye's Remorse, how exactly am I generating my endurance charges? Just being precautious about entering mapping since this is my first necro :)

Hello, I was was/still am using your build, but i would like it to be "tweaked" alittle, i see the victario shield giving it to minions, but say i would replace shield with United in Dream, Would you be able to show me a build path you would take?

-edit adding this-
I'm not really on a budget, seeing how i have mastered the art of farming. This is a link to my current gear. Note, Rings/belt to be replaced very soon.

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Ishabooo wrote:

Ahh okay! Forgive me for asking but if I'm not using Ahn's Courage and using Lioneye's Remorse, how exactly am I generating my endurance charges? Just being precautious about entering mapping since this is my first necro :)

Enduring cry :)

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Genolin wrote:

Hello, I was was/still am using your build, but i would like it to be "tweaked" alittle, i see the victario shield giving it to minions, but say i would replace shield with United in Dream, Would you be able to show me a build path you would take?

-edit adding this-
I'm not really on a budget, seeing how i have mastered the art of farming. This is a link to my current gear. Note, Rings/belt to be replaced very soon.

Spoiler

---PS im only using generosity in my weapon due to running with people who already run hatred---

Literally replace ahn's with united in dream and the two fragility jewels with brawn, that's it. But here is an optimized tree + items for united in dream with minimal changes to the skill tree. Please note grip of the council is only used once you have resists covered, pay attention to the resists on the items and rolls on jewels.

Path of Building import:https://pastebin.com/1nsAeT3J

Mkay thanks for answering my questions! Your guide is very easy to follow, I just get confused with all the "Utilities" gems. Here's to hoping I can push far into maps. :D

Hey, I'm doing pretty well so far with your build, tier 7/8 maps are easy going. Just need to get some levels now for the jewel sockets :P

Could you perhaps post a video of an uber lab run?

very nice build thanks .But i have question about gems.SO I dont know what gems should i use on shield and gloves? can you help me pls and u also can check my items.Thanks

Ty for nice guide!
Here is my char on Harbinger SC :


I did a lot of testing with skill tree,because wanted more clearspeed and needed more strength because of 0 str on rings and amu(i value bisco too much) and this one worked best for me: www.poeurl.com/bwfp
We put violent dead in witch zone and convert dex next to vaal pact instead.
When comparing to original tree:

1.What we lose
-more or less 50% inc life from the tree
-minion dmg circle in witch zone in the north of the tree (i think this circle isnt that efficient as other ones)

2.What we get
-Much much more str,making it way easier to cap 1k
-another 45% inc dur of spells for better clearspeed
-vaal pact (on paper it doesn't look that good but in game it helped me a lot with survivability)
-9 % inc castspeed and 5% inc ms for clearspeed

I still got 5.5k hp and 666 es with semi-mf gear so didn't find that much % life necessary for farming maps.I can only die when i am one-shoted because vaal pact with zombies is great.So i can recommend this tree for people who have hard time reaching 1k str.I dont think going for 1k str without vaal pact is worth it in the same time.

P.S. unfortunately attack and cast speed enchant for boots u suggest to use doesn't work for summoner so i think movement speed one is best.

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Ishabooo wrote:

Mkay thanks for answering my questions! Your guide is very easy to follow, I just get confused with all the "Utilities" gems. Here's to hoping I can push far into maps. :D

Np, good luck and remember you want zombies up at all times as they mitigate a lot of damage, just retreat while u try to re-summon. Be careful of maps mods and over cap your resists for ele weakness and you should have no problems :).

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Gape_Horn wrote:

Hey, I'm doing pretty well so far with your build, tier 7/8 maps are easy going. Just need to get some levels now for the jewel sockets :P

Could you perhaps post a video of an uber lab run?

Sorry but I have reworked and tried so many variations on my character that I am not running the build anymore, if I get some time I will respec and try add more videos. As for uber lab like any build that is in one shot range you don't want to face tank, keep your curse on the boss and elemental equilibrium up and run around casting SRS, it will die quite fast.

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Pbl6а wrote:

very nice build thanks .But i have question about gems.SO I dont know what gems should i use on shield and gloves? can you help me pls and u also can check my items.Thanks

In the gems and links section you can see all the gems, just put them in any spots available on any items besides helmet, body and boots. Make sure that generosity is linked to hatred only and not haste.

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4012EternalFlame4012 wrote:

Ty for nice guide!
Here is my char on Harbinger SC :

items

I did a lot of testing with skill tree,because wanted more clearspeed and needed more strength because of 0 str on rings and amu(i value bisco too much) and this one worked best for me: www.poeurl.com/bwfp
We put violent dead in witch zone and convert dex next to vaal pact instead.
When comparing to original tree:

1.What we lose
-more or less 50% inc life from the tree
-minion dmg circle in witch zone in the north of the tree (i think this circle isnt that efficient as other ones)

2.What we get
-Much much more str,making it way easier to cap 1k
-another 45% inc dur of spells for better clearspeed
-vaal pact (on paper it doesn't look that good but in game it helped me a lot with survivability)
-9 % inc castspeed and 5% inc ms for clearspeed

I still got 5.5k hp and 666 es with semi-mf gear so didn't find that much % life necessary for farming maps.I can only die when i am one-shoted because vaal pact with zombies is great.So i can recommend this tree for people who have hard time reaching 1k str.I dont think going for 1k str without vaal pact is worth it in the same time.

P.S. unfortunately attack and cast speed enchant for boots u suggest to use doesn't work for summoner so i think movement speed one is best.

My bad I didn't realise that enchant was in the list, fixed. I have actually tested blood magic, vaal pact etc variant with up to 1500 strength but I decided on the current build because it made it easy to transition into pure SRS for people that decided they didn't like zombies and was a good balance between damage and defense. The only issue with vaal pact is that in situations where your zombies are dead and you struggle to re summon you have no regen to cast SRS without flasks, that is the main concern for not using it in my build especially for new players.

Nice gear, and yes I think if you go victario's vaal pact is definitely worth it because of life pool and it isn't too much of an investment. As for magic find a rework is definitely needed and your adjustment is good, thanks for the feedback :).