[3.2] SRS/Zombies Necromancer

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dupie wrote:

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Genzzry wrote:

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dupie wrote:

Q:Why zombies and Mon'tregul's
A:Kind of a waste not using them with the baron if they are beneficial to us, besides they tank for you and do decent damage when they actually attack, and some life leech. Mon'tegul's because it sucks summoning 10 zombies, zombies don't die as easily and it's dirt cheap.

I only had 7 zombies... 3 after the Mon'Tregul's Grasp.

Anyone know where this 10 comes from?

900 strength gives you 3 with the baron, you get 4 from the skill tree and 3 base. 10 in total at 900 strength.

Oh... I'm missing the Baron atm, as I'm just starting to gear up.

Thanks for the breakdown :)

Solo'd with this build from act 1 to act 9 without any issues on last boss of act 9 as well.
No idea how this build is gonna work out for uber yet and etc.

still not running baron or any fancy Uniques. so if people can't solo up to act 9 with this build ¯\_(ツ)_/¯



Down to some suggestions and question i guess?


Do you think its worth to change the follow nodes and gain something else from it?



(6P) - Lose 30% max life
(1P*)- 12% increased phys damage
(*P) - +10 armor
(*P) - +20 STR




(1P) + Gain 1 jewel slot
(1P) + 8% increased armour
(1P) + 8% increased armour ( 16% )
(1P) + 10 STR

(remaining 3 Free points)


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(2P) + Gain 2 jewel slots. and if your RNG is so high to get a high roll STR jewel
(1P) + 8% increased armour
(1P) + 8% increased armour (16%)
(4P) + 40 STR
(1P) + 5% Max Life

= level 98

Level 100 you prob can get this?


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Just trying to see if there was a better way to improve the tree you have.
in my point of view, your tree has more good stuff like minion damage than Ghazzy's SRS beginner friendly.

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Although i would like to point out 1 wheel where I THINK.. there might be a problem and some better tweaks?

(your tree where the scion area is)

(+2P) 16% Increased Max. Mana (Profit ???)
(-2P) 0.3% (+) 0.4% = 0.7% Life Regen per second only??
- pretty sure 0.7% life regen isn't worth it. but you could always explain why you took this




(Important) you prob didn't notice about this, but you have a 2nd Violent Dead Jewel in that Scion jewel slot. that does not have any effects applied on the jewel.
But only > Minion deal 15% Increased Damage, because you only have 20 INT there in the radius, when you need 40 INT in the radius to apply the jewel effect

Unless im missing something from that, if so please enlighten me as this is my first time playing SRS build and into jewel system


overall good build here, Definitely recommended for newbies / beginners, as you can solo everything till act 9/10 without any uniques needed

Would love to see some other alternatives for items.
or maybe if there was a chance to run MoM with this build, lose some max life nodes for huge amount of mana?



i would try making some adjustments to use MoM instead, but i just started playing on 3.0.0 as you can see i only have 1 main character on my profile. so i can't really test MoM unless i have a bunch of refund points

Not sure what I'm doing wrong but my SRS damage is terrible. And they are so painful and slow to cast. Tooltip DPS is 409.
I don't have all the items required yet but even in a tier 1 map they are completely useless
Zombies are doing fine. My character should be visible if anyone wants to take a look.

Is Worth taking Spirit Eater over Commander of Darkness since Spirit Eater gives a lot more dmg ( +40% ) and i have already capped resistances ( +95% each ) ?

(Important) you prob didn't notice about this, but you have a 2nd Violent Dead Jewel in that Scion jewel slot. that does not have any effects applied on the jewel.
But only > Minion deal 15% Increased Damage, because you only have 20 INT there in the radius, when you need 40 INT in the radius to apply the jewel effect

check the skills in this corner u have 40int

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leopard2lx wrote:

Not sure what I'm doing wrong but my SRS damage is terrible. And they are so painful and slow to cast. Tooltip DPS is 409.
I don't have all the items required yet but even in a tier 1 map they are completely useless
Zombies are doing fine. My character should be visible if anyone wants to take a look.

For clearing, swap out Elemental Damage with Attacks for Melee Splash --- will clear mobs much much faster. Can swap back for single target if you want.

Plus -- My preference, if you are not running haste.. i wouD swap Elemental Focus for Minion SpeeD.. once you have haste, you can swap back to elemental focus.

Hi there,

thanks for this guide, I am really enjoying my summoner so far :)

One thing I was wondering, your passive skills leave you with 7 Zombies, which gets rounded down to 3 with Montreguls.

Is this intended or am I missing a Zombie somewhere?

Hi,

Playing this build, i got the Covenant but not 6L and too poor for fusing it :P.

What do you suggest for 4L ? and 5L ?

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gnulfn wrote:

Hi there,

thanks for this guide, I am really enjoying my summoner so far :)

One thing I was wondering, your passive skills leave you with 7 Zombies, which gets rounded down to 3 with Montreguls.

Is this intended or am I missing a Zombie somewhere?

I asked this same question in the previous page of this thread.

900 strength gives you 3 with the baron, you get 4 from the skill tree and 3 base. 10 in total at 900 strength.

Although, this should probably be explained better in the original post... for the sake of us noobs :)

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grandrulers wrote:

Solo'd with this build from act 1 to act 9 without any issues on last boss of act 9 as well.

"Would love to see some other alternatives for items.
or maybe if there was a chance to run MoM with this build, lose some max life nodes for huge amount of mana?"

As for the tree nodes you are welcome to change whichever ones you like, I personally prefer the way it is but you can tweak it to your liking, just make sure you have over 900 strength and decent life.

Violent dead jewel is misleading, you don't need 40 int allocated just 40 int within the radius.

It's really not worth running MoM with this build because we reserve all of our mana, if you really wanted to go MoM look into Eldritch Battery+MoM combo or going blood magic + essence worm, but I don't think either of these are worth it as you sacrifice too much. I will add some alternatives when I get some more time.

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leopard2lx wrote:

Not sure what I'm doing wrong but my SRS damage is terrible. And they are so painful and slow to cast. Tooltip DPS is 409.
I don't have all the items required yet but even in a tier 1 map they are completely useless
Zombies are doing fine. My character should be visible if anyone wants to take a look.

Your SRS gem is level 12, should be around lvl 17 at your level which is a huge dmg loss. You are also not following the tree correctly, and you should have the reduced mana reservation nodes to run haste as well as hatred by now, your tree pathing is also a bit off so recheck that.

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yondaime71 wrote:

Is Worth taking Spirit Eater over Commander of Darkness since Spirit Eater gives a lot more dmg ( +40% ) and i have already capped resistances ( +95% each ) ?

That 40% damage from spirit eater only applies to you and not your minions, so they are quite similar but spirit eater if you play solo and consume a lot of corpses in a map or get commander of darkness 1st if you play with other people.

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gnulfn wrote:

Hi there,

thanks for this guide, I am really enjoying my summoner so far :)

One thing I was wondering, your passive skills leave you with 7 Zombies, which gets rounded down to 3 with Montreguls.

Is this intended or am I missing a Zombie somewhere?

I will make this more clear in the guide about how many zombies we have and how they are obtained.

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badw wrote:

Hi,

Playing this build, i got the Covenant but not 6L and too poor for fusing it :P.

What do you suggest for 4L ? and 5L ?

4L:Summon Raging Spirit - Melee Physical Damage - Minion Damage - Elemental Damage with Attacks(Single)/Melee Splash(AoE)

5L:Summon Raging Spirit - Melee Physical Damage - Minion Damage - Elemental Damage with Attacks(Single)/Melee Splash(AoE) - Elemental Focus/Minion Speed