[3.2] SRS/Zombies Necromancer

Hey there,

i might be wrong but it seem that Melee Physical Damage Support and Melee Splash Support
doesn't work together with Raging Spirit nor Raise Zombies.
I'm still new to PoE forgive me if i've missed something :/

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TeModen wrote:

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dupie wrote:

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Mojacks wrote:

Sorry if this is a dumb question but since when does srs needs Accuracy?

You linked it with srs on the chest and i never used add. Accuracy.

SRS don't have 100% chance to hit, additional accuracy is used to minimize their chance to miss, which is a big dps boost. For our build it is equivalent to an empower 4.

What are you smoking, dude?:D
There's nothing better than emp 4 for SRS, boosting your minion's level by 3, lets assume they were level 23 (+3 from weapon), will increase the damage from 297–446 base damage up to 398–597 base damage, so it will increase the damage output by 30% regardless of any other %incresed and $more damage mods.
I already did a few SRS builds in my past, one was level 90+, and i can't remember a single instance of them missing a hit. Even if they miss, it's a rare thing, accuracy is redundant, go SRS+meleephys+miniondamage+weaponelementaldamage+meleesplash+empower 4(or added fire if you don't have at lest level 3 empower) .Classic.

With empower 4 they have around 64% hit chance, with additional accuracy they have 85% hit chance. You can assume they don't miss but in reality they do miss quite often, so why do I take add. accuracy over empower 4? It's literally the same dps at a fraction of the cost. Use empower 4 with higher budget pure SRS builds if you want.

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ShiQz wrote:

Hey there,

i might be wrong but it seem that Melee Physical Damage Support and Melee Splash Support
doesn't work together with Raging Spirit nor Raise Zombies.
I'm still new to PoE forgive me if i've missed something :/

It does work, summon raging spirits is considered a spell to cast BUT the actual spirits are melee based, so melee supports work with them.

Hey guys, i've got a realy noobish question...

Just startet my Necro and the guide says I should get a Melee Splash @ lvl 8.

But it requiers more STR then I even have.

So my question is: How do I get way more STR? i.e. to wear the Baron later on? Or to juse Melee Spalsh? I just find equip with STR that requiers more STR then I even have.

Thanks for your help. :)

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dupie wrote:

With empower 4 they have around 64% hit chance, with additional accuracy they have 85% hit chance. You can assume they don't miss but in reality they do miss quite often, so why do I take add. accuracy over empower 4? It's literally the same dps at a fraction of the cost. Use empower 4 with higher budget pure SRS builds if you want.

Where did you take that? who said you about 64% hit chance? there's no such information on wiki and, even if so, ligic is easy, hit chance depends not only on accuracy, but on evasion of the target too, so, we can assume, that SRS gain some accuracy with levels to keep up with higher level enemyes/higher evasion levels. In this case empower 4 is not only a 30% damage buff, but accuracy buff as well.
And yeah, once again, i want to see the source of information you're giving. I have never seen anything like that in entire PoE history before

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TeModen wrote:

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dupie wrote:

With empower 4 they have around 64% hit chance, with additional accuracy they have 85% hit chance. You can assume they don't miss but in reality they do miss quite often, so why do I take add. accuracy over empower 4? It's literally the same dps at a fraction of the cost. Use empower 4 with higher budget pure SRS builds if you want.

Where did you take that? who said you about 64% hit chance? there's no such information on wiki and, even if so, ligic is easy, hit chance depends not only on accuracy, but on evasion of the target too, so, we can assume, that SRS gain some accuracy with levels to keep up with higher level enemyes/higher evasion levels. In this case empower 4 is not only a 30% damage buff, but accuracy buff as well.
And yeah, once again, i want to see the source of information you're giving. I have never seen anything like that in entire PoE history before

We don't know their exact hit chance but we do know they are not a spell, so if they are melee you can assume they have a base hit chance like any other monster at level 70. At level 20 SRS gem spirits are monster level 70, knowing that and looking at the base accuracy rating for general monsters at level 70 we see it's 412. So yes it is generally thought that SRS has a 60% accuracy rating based off what we know.

If you take an empower 4 and bring up the base level of the summoned spirit it will only net you an extra 100-150 accuracy, whereas a 20 add. accuracy gem will give you 1034, giving you a good damage boost as they will be much more accurate. This is why the damage will even out with empowers higher base damage on SRS vs add. accuracy lower base damage but 25% higher hit chance, and it's practically free. This build is not using a +3 weapon, and as stated empower is still good there.

Source
Base level of summoned spirit at bottom

Accuracy/Evasion chart

General monster accuracy post

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Sinesh wrote:

Hey guys, i've got a realy noobish question...

Just startet my Necro and the guide says I should get a Melee Splash @ lvl 8.

But it requiers more STR then I even have.

So my question is: How do I get way more STR? i.e. to wear the Baron later on? Or to juse Melee Spalsh? I just find equip with STR that requiers more STR then I even have.

Thanks for your help. :)

Buy an amulet with strength on it from the vendor, as you work your way through the tree you will eventually get a lot of strength. Just level up your gems as you get the stats to do so.

what would you suggest, aurabot, auramancer or summonmancer for this league? mind you i liked playing aurabot last league :o

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Gaarashatan1 wrote:

what would you suggest, aurabot, auramancer or summonmancer for this league? mind you i liked playing aurabot last league :o

Aura if you play in groups but it depends what your goal is, for farming end game bosses definitely try out golemancer, for mapping any SRS type build is good.

Thank you for this build, it looks right up my alley! That said, I have a question and this might just be me being dumb, but...

Why do you use two Violent Dead jewels? There isn't 40 int where you put them, so you don't get the bonunes for the Zombies