MTX trading

Is trading trading visuals for currency legal?
Last bumped on Jun 21, 2017, 12:20:56 PM
Hey there!

Trading in-game items or currency for Microtransaction purchases or shop points is something that we would consider to be Real Money Trading and would be against our Terms of Use, please don't do that! :(

If you have any questions about something that might be against our Terms of Use you are very welcome to email us at support@grindinggear.com and we can clarify for you. :D
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Alright thank you i just wanted to know.
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Sarah_GGG wrote:

Trading in-game items or currency for Microtransaction purchases or shop points is something that we would consider to be Real Money Trading and would be against our Terms of Use


i understood that ggg doesn't want a official ingame points for ingame items exchange.

but, i just don't like it to be called "rmt". because it's not.

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it's not real money as it's shop points. ggg profits from it to 100%. as far as i undertood rmt is trading ingame items for external money payment where ggg doesn't see a cent.

if it is bannable, can i report a guild leader for rmt if a player spends points towards his guild and the guild leader gives him ingame currency later on to help out?

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if anybody doubts that points spent towards the guild belong towards the guild leader, you're welcome to join my guild, spend points and get kicked after a short time to prove you wrong.


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vio wrote:
but, i just don't like it to be called "rmt". because it's not

My understanding of the OP - which may be mistaken - is that they wish to conduct a trade where one person gives items bought through the shop in exchange for Chaos Orbs, Exalts, etc.

That would be trading items earned through gameplay for items earned through using a credit card, which would certainly match my definition of "Real Money Transaction." The store points may exist in-game, but they're not obtainable through gameplay. The source matters.


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vio wrote:
ggg profits from it to 100%

They can only profit if real money changes hands, which would confirm it's RMT.

It doesn't matter if GGG is involved and gets money or not. RMT is not allowed because it gives an unfair in-game advantage, and that is equally true regardless of where the money goes. As a company with a Free To Play game, GGG aren't going to tolerate anything which people could perceive as being pay to win, because it's incredibly damaging for their image.

If they allowed people to spend real money on points to give to other players in return for in-game benefit, I'd stop playing immediately. I'm not interested in feeling like I have to open my wallet or I'll be behind the curve. It stops games being fun - or, it does for me, at least.
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vio wrote:
i understood that ggg doesn't want a official ingame points for ingame items exchange.

but, i just don't like it to be called "rmt". because it's not.

Spoiler
it's not real money as it's shop points. ggg profits from it to 100%. as far as i undertood rmt is trading ingame items for external money payment where ggg doesn't see a cent.

if it is bannable, can i report a guild leader for rmt if a player spends points towards his guild and the guild leader gives him ingame currency later on to help out?

Spoiler
if anybody doubts that points spent towards the guild belong towards the guild leader, you're welcome to join my guild, spend points and get kicked after a short time to prove you wrong.




Hey there vio, I apologise if my explanation caused any confusion.

As a general rule, any time an in-game transaction for currency, items or services are paid for with external currency such a real life money, CS:GO skins, forum gold or, in this case, points for the microtransaction store on Path of Exile (which have a real money value and are not obtainable from in-game using currency that you must earn) we would consider to be a type of Real Money Trading.

The policy includes trading for purchases that are going to GGG through the Path of Exile store also, we are not exempt from the RMT rules!

If you have any further questions about this or if there is anything else we can help clarify you are welcome to email in to support@grindinggear.com any time. :D

Contact us at support@grindinggear.com!
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Sarah_GGG wrote:

any time an in-game transaction for currency, items or services are paid for with external currency such a real life money, CS:GO skins, forum gold or, in this case, points for the microtransaction store on Path of Exile ... we would consider to be a type of Real Money Trading.


i'm not really into starting a big dispute here, i was just hinting at your inconsistency in argumentation when you allow rmt (your words) in guilds but say it's bannable anywhere else.

so if some newb asks me about it i say it's some exception from the general rule. totally fine for me.

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the reason i go off on this topic is that i ever complained about your guild implementation because it trust on players being well minded.

purchased guild tabs belong to the player's account who spent the dollars. everything else is rmt.
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vio wrote:
ggg profits from it to 100%
They can only profit if real money changes hands, which would confirm it's RMT.

It doesn't matter if GGG is involved and gets money or not. RMT is not allowed because it gives an unfair in-game advantage, and that is equally true regardless of where the money goes.


how does MTX gives a unfair in-game advantage? when MTX is purely cosmetics.
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Akymo86 wrote:
how does MTX gives a unfair in-game advantage? when MTX is purely cosmetics.

I didn't claim that MTX provided an in-game advantage.

I claimed what people would get in return for them did.
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Akymo86 wrote:
how does MTX gives a unfair in-game advantage? when MTX is purely cosmetics.

you can send requests ggg support for gifting shop points to other accounts which they can use to get a more comfortable gameplay by buying stash tabs.

does it give an advantage? i wouldn't say so as ggg just profits from player's hoarding disorder and/or inability to have a optimised gameplay.



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