[Guide] Efficient currency farming

Hi just a additional "trick":

Make a tab for 10c+ rares without a buyout:

1. You find an Item you know is worth something
2. Put it in the tab;)
3. You got spammed with offers(4) or not....
4. Look up the Item(tool) and price it 20% lower
5. Enjoy having 95%+ sell for a decent price

We all will profit from this method:

Especially with jewels and rings/amys people dont know how to price them. I have seen countless 0.5ex Items listed for 1ex+ from day 1 of the season to day 90 that simply wont sell. We all profit from having more items available to us and nobody gets scammed/lowballed
Last edited by FreedomOI#5508 on Feb 26, 2017, 5:35:45 AM
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lostcoaster wrote:
A quick question about shaping atlas: Why do you choose shaping t5-t8, instead of t6-t10 or other ranges?


I picked those tiers because the higher tiers require a much stronger character to do quickly and safely. I wanted to do maps that would let me get to 100 without dying to a Volatile if the map mods were just slightly rippy. There are many ways to shape the atlas, though. I don't believe there is a right or wrong answer.

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Tzaina wrote:
Ahahahaha, another one that belives he got it all figured out :D



I don't believe that. The guide is very subjective, and just one of many valid ways to play the game.

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DemiDemon wrote:
So I skim-read, got to your policy on the 5C tab and decided I can't be bothered reading anymore. No it's not against the rules but it is dickish behaviour.


That's too bad, but it's your choice.

I might screenshot all my 5c ring/amu/jewel tab sales in Legacy League and review them at the end to see how many were actually sold as great brodeals.
Well you got main point right - play a lot and play efficiently (but don't go full retard either), but some of this advices are not that great.

Chaos recipe. Let's just get this point out of the way - rich people do Chaos recipe. Belton does it and he one of the richest players here. You just need to manage it correctly. Pick up all jewellry (you can identify good bases) and complete rare sets with loot from boss. Don't do extra trips. Don't horde rare armour. Use quad tab if possible and keep it in check. You don't waste a lot of time but get guaranteed 2 chaos. It's great in the begining of the League as well. I realise it's profitable but personally don't do chaos recipe, because I don't like to pay extra attention at stuff.

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If I'm trying to buy an item and don't get a response within 10 seconds, I try the next person on the list. I've seen others just spam whispering everyone in rapid succession; don't do that, as it often leads to multiple invites and frustration.

Good luck buying something cheap like map or certain unique. Buying those can be frustrating even if you whisper everyone, let alone waiting 10 seconds each person. Vice Versa ALWAYS spam everyone when you want to buy map or some other cheap item where rolls don't matter much.

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If you want an item to sell quickly, it's OKAY to sell it for a lower price than the market value, so long as you are aware of it, and are making an informed decision. On the other end of the spectrum, it's okay to list an item for more than the current market value if you're not in a hurry to sell it. Prices will change depending on the time of day, how far into the league you are, and on the shifting meta

Because of people who think that undercutting prices is good idea, such activities like Atziri or Uber Lab farm quickly become less and less profitable. I agree you can undercut prices of rares but never when it comes to hot uniques or quality gems.

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Minimum transaction profit: 5c. I don't even list items that are worth less than this, unless I can sell them in bulk, like certain maps or essences.

I farmed 700 tiers, I got GG Rustic Sach and that's it. All other irems are 1-3c. I should just vendor all of them according to this Guide? Divination Cards, Maps, Fragments, Gems (might be tricky to price them correctly even with Trade Macro though) - all of them are great sources of income. This smaller trades pile up and give you monies in the end as well. What I mean here is it's ok to list something for 2-5c. I would not go below 1c personally, because there is just too much items here (Div. cards and some other items like maps are exceptions to this rule).

Is there something about converting currencie you don't use into chaos and then buying Exalts? This might be good idea.

Lol this takes so much time. Fuck it. xD

P.S. Your Loot Filter is not Gorgeous enough. :3
Last edited by SunL4D2#6224 on Feb 26, 2017, 7:52:51 AM


I usually find several 3-10c Items on day 1. Atm the league is dead, I just gave a guy that wanted to try a Whispering Ice build my full gear. Worth 100ex+

Why should I keep it, I havent played standard since 1.2
Last edited by FreedomOI#5508 on Feb 26, 2017, 7:55:52 AM
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SunL4D2 wrote:
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Well you got main point right - play a lot and play efficiently (but don't go full retard either), but some of this advices are terrible.

Chaos recipe. Let's just get this point out of the way - rich people do Chaos recipe. Belton does it and he one of the richest players here. You just need to manage it correctly. Pick up all jewellry (you can identify good bases) and complete rare sets with loot from boss. Don't do extra trips. Don't horde rare armour. Use quad tab if possible and keep it in check. You don't waste a lot of time but get guaranteed 2 chaos. It's great in the begining of the League as well. I realise it's profitable but personally don't do chaos recipe, because I don't like to pay extra attention at stuff.

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If I'm trying to buy an item and don't get a response within 10 seconds, I try the next person on the list. I've seen others just spam whispering everyone in rapid succession; don't do that, as it often leads to multiple invites and frustration.

Good luck buying something cheap like map or certain unique. Buying those can be frustrating even if you whisper everyone, let alone waiting 10 seconds each person. Vice Versa ALWAYS spam everyone when you want to buy map or some other cheap item where rolls don't matter much.

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If you want an item to sell quickly, it's OKAY to sell it for a lower price than the market value, so long as you are aware of it, and are making an informed decision. On the other end of the spectrum, it's okay to list an item for more than the current market value if you're not in a hurry to sell it. Prices will change depending on the time of day, how far into the league you are, and on the shifting meta

Because of people who think that undercutting prices is good idea, such activities like Atziri or Uber Lab farm quickly become less and less profitable. I agree you can undercut prices of rares but never when it comes to hot uniques or quality gems.

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Minimum transaction profit: 5c. I don't even list items that are worth less than this, unless I can sell them in bulk, like certain maps or essences.

I farmed 700 tiers, I got GG Rustic Sach and that's it. All other irems are 1-3c. I should just vendor all of them according to this Guide? Divination Cards, Maps, Fragments, Gems (might be tricky to price them correctly even with Trade Macro though) - all of them are great sources of income. This smaller trades pile up and give you monies in the end as well. What I mean here is it's ok to list something for 2-5c. I would not go below 1c personally, because there is just too much items here (Div. cards and some other items like maps are exceptions to this rule).

Is there something about converting currencie you don't use into chaos and then buying Exalts? This might be good idea.

Lol this takes so much time. Fuck it. xD

P.S. Your Loot Filter is not Gorgeous enough. :3


The thing about the chaos recipe is that it feels like tedious busywork, and would also require making significant changes to my whole playstyle, which would slow me down a lot, and lessen the enjoyment I get out of the game. If you have done your own testing and determined that it's profitable for your playstyle, and if you don't hate doing it, feel free to keep doing it.

I don't know who Belton is, but my goal has never been to be the richest player. Currency is just a means to an end. If I get enough of it to fully deck out a character in really good gear, without having to do things I don't enjoy in the game, I've reached my goal. I don't "play" the market at all, and I have no interest in playing an economy simulator.

I straight up disagree with you on the spam whispering subject. People think I'm rude for the 5c tab thing? I think spam whispering everyone in the list without giving them 10 seconds to respond is FAR more rude than changing the price of an obviously underpriced item, as long as you are honest about it.

I'm not sure what your point is about undercutting. The market changes over time based on supply and demand. Especially in softcore where items don't leave the economy, the market gets flooded with items after a while, causing an inevitable price drop. People undercut because they want to sell items quickly. It's not a bad thing if you're a buyer.

Should you vendor 1-3c items? That's entirely up to you. I vendor a lot of 1-3c uniques at least. Your minimum transaction profit is something you have to decide for yourself. I don't claim that my way is the best for everyone, but it's a way that works well for me. I want to minimize the amount of trading I do since it's not at all enjoyable to me.

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FreedomOI wrote:
Hi just a additional "trick":

Make a tab for 10c+ rares without a buyout:

1. You find an Item you know is worth something
2. Put it in the tab;)
3. You got spammed with offers(4) or not....
4. Look up the Item(tool) and price it 20% lower
5. Enjoy having 95%+ sell for a decent price

We all will profit from this method:

Especially with jewels and rings/amys people dont know how to price them. I have seen countless 0.5ex Items listed for 1ex+ from day 1 of the season to day 90 that simply wont sell. We all profit from having more items available to us and nobody gets scammed/lowballed


The issue I have with this is the part where I know the item is worth something, since that requires that I've already taken the time to look at the item. If I do this, I might as well just determine the price on my own.
Last edited by carkasjak#7673 on Feb 26, 2017, 8:32:31 AM
Don't dump items into 5c tab for "price checking". Have tabs from like 20->1c and then a "custom price" one. If you're unsure of an items value, price it very high. If it sells, good. If not (it won't), move it down incrementally. I usually move items down every other day. When an item gets moved down from 1c tab, vendor it. For a few very high value items you use "custom price" tab where you have individual buyouts and these few items you mark down manually.

Don't use fellow exiles to "price check" by posting false buyouts when there's a much better way!
The chaos recipe would be profitable for your playstyle, given a fast clearing build of course.

However, you don't like doing it (I don't either, though I never make builds expressly to do it) and I can perfectly understand that, but it is super efficient (and safe, from a HC standpoint).
Last edited by Undead_Fred#7809 on Feb 26, 2017, 9:01:52 AM
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carkasjak wrote:
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SunL4D2 wrote:
The issue I have with this is the part where I know the item is worth something, since that requires that I've already taken the time to look at the item. If I do this, I might as well just determine the price on my own.
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Its always time spend...
If u can do a guardian run in 3mins, its not worth picking up any Items. The maprewards get u 2-3ex/h

I have my own key/stashtab

Day 1-3 pick up anything
Day 3-6 kill the 1-3c stastab
Week 2 dont pick up rares, I just wanted to get a method of pricing across
Last edited by FreedomOI#5508 on Feb 26, 2017, 9:22:58 AM
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whrsmycoffee wrote:
Don't dump items into 5c tab for "price checking". Have tabs from like 20->1c and then a "custom price" one. If you're unsure of an items value, price it very high. If it sells, good. If not (it won't), move it down incrementally. I usually move items down every other day. When an item gets moved down from 1c tab, vendor it. For a few very high value items you use "custom price" tab where you have individual buyouts and these few items you mark down manually.

Don't use fellow exiles to "price check" by posting false buyouts when there's a much better way!


This idea seems pretty valid as well, but it requires a lot more busywork than I am willing to do.

I regret calling it "free price checking" in the original version of the guide, as this gives people the wrong idea about the method. I've tried to tell people repeatedly that it's EXTREMELY rare that I'd ever change the price of these items. In the vast majority of cases I'm just selling things that would normally be worth between 5c and 30c for 5c, and saving myself the time and effort of checking it.
Last edited by carkasjak#7673 on Feb 26, 2017, 10:46:48 AM
So this guy made carcas jack armor? Not bad. I like it!
I swear if they make some maven "Simon says" insta-death minigame, sirus, exarch ball minigame then i wont play poe2.

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