[2.6] LL Ele Wander Raider ~ Insane clear speed/Shaper/Guardians - 225k Barrage tooltip

btw how good would be getting +1 gem lvl corruption on thunderfist? i saw one for around 50c.

also divined legacy prism could help a little with resist :p
Last edited by Hejti#4526 on Mar 25, 2017, 4:15:47 PM
Hello playing SSF and found a 240 phys dps wand. Was wondering about how Phys vs Ele would be. Should i just craft ele wand? I do have choir of the storm and decent es gear right now(800 es chest, 300 es helm, 200 es gloves and 200 es boots)

I do not have Dying sun and crown of eyes yet.

Wondering what route to go.

Thanks
Just killed all Guardians and Shaper with your build. Thanks a lot, Worst_Luck and philophil!

The damage is absurd and it clears very smoothly. I love it!

My gear I'm using: (Pathfinder)
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Now just need money for a Skyforth's. (and craft a better wand for more deeps)
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Hejtero wrote:
btw how good would be getting +1 gem lvl corruption on thunderfist? i saw one for around 50c.

also divined legacy prism could help a little with resist :p


use a wise oak! 20 or 30 % lightning penetration is HUGE!
Gonna have around 30 EX for this build + Dying Sun and Vinktar from my Discharger.


Should i chose Raider or Pathfinder? what are the pros and cons of both, i rly liked playing Pathfinder but i dont have anything against Raider.
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Hejtero wrote:
Gonna have around 30 EX for this build + Dying Sun and Vinktar from my Discharger.


Should i chose Raider or Pathfinder? what are the pros and cons of both, i rly liked playing Pathfinder but i dont have anything against Raider.


I am fan of the pathfinder.

- better flasks (+3projectiles dying sun, 30% lighning pen from the wise oak, stronger resists from all flasks, movementspeed flsk with increased movement speed gives as much mvmtspeed as raider with frenzy charges)
- status immunity even in a group if you can't stack up full frenzy (a friend has problems stacking up his frenzy while playing with me, LOL!)
- 10% elemental dmg penetration
- 20% chance for flasks to not cosume a charge
- better flask uptime, Vinktar OP

raider:
- phasing looks awesome

I personally would say the pathfinder is stronger since he gets the same benefits like the raider and stronger flasks.

I love flasks <3






Last edited by Kunibald#0738 on Mar 25, 2017, 8:10:15 PM
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Kunibald wrote:
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Hejtero wrote:
Gonna have around 30 EX for this build + Dying Sun and Vinktar from my Discharger.


Should i chose Raider or Pathfinder? what are the pros and cons of both, i rly liked playing Pathfinder but i dont have anything against Raider.


I am fan of the pathfinder.

- better flasks (+3projectiles dying sun, 30% lighning pen from the wise oak, stronger resists from all flasks, movementspeed flsk with increased movement speed gives as much mvmtspeed as raider with frenzy charges)
- status immunity even in a group if you can't stack up full frenzy (a friend has problems stacking up his frenzy while playing with me, LOL!)
- 10% elemental dmg penetration
- 20% chance for flasks to not cosume a charge

raider:
- phasing looks awesome

I personally would say the pathfinder is stronger since he gets the same benefits like the raider and stronger flasks.

I love flasks <3


Stacking frenzy isn't a problem at all, you have shitloads of duration on it too. Raider gets just as much MS cause of ascendancies, probably more but don't quote me on that.

I made an analysis on PoB for pathfinder vs raider and raider is 1.47 million dps while PF is 1.38 million fully buffed on barrage (these are all with my gear), i'm not sure what the damage with wise-oak would do to those numbers however, since PoB doesn't seem to factor it in somehow. If you find a way to generate frenzy on PF then it would be very strong. Also, getting a +1 frenzy choir on raider would also make it very good, but it's there for anyone to play around, would be cool to see any new suggestions. Only factor not taken into account is the flask duration on PF, since flasks last longer it's probably a bit more dps - I just can't be asked playing flasks like the piano. I think once you get to the threshold where bosses melt, there won't be much difference.

It's up to you what you chose, I don't think there's much difference in both. They literally have 10k damage difference on bosses too lol, and it does count the extra proj from dying sun and all the flask effect and shit.

Pathfinder: http://pastebin.com/iC9aK0mn Raider: http://pastebin.com/Gqi6xWYe
Last edited by Worst_luck#4486 on Mar 25, 2017, 8:17:40 PM
If pathfinder is around Raider dmg isn't it better to chose Pathfinder since u gonna be more tanky? i mean u get more utility from flasks. Last league when i was playing CI Cyclone Nagamahu Pathfinder i didn't die once while mapping i rly got into PF for his flasks.


However maybe its time to go Raider and drop piano playstyle :P not sure

Last edited by Hejti#4526 on Mar 25, 2017, 9:21:03 PM
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Hejtero wrote:
If pathfinder is around Raider dmg isn't it better to chose Pathfinder since u gonna be more tanky? i mean u get more utility from flasks. Last league when i was playing CI Cyclone Nagamahu Pathfinder i didn't die once while mapping i rly got into PF for his flasks.


However maybe its time to go Raider and drop piano playstyle :P not sure



Yeah sure, but like, u don't really die that often anyways. Also free perma vinktars leech, you don't have to drop PF. Raider isn't much different anyways.
Last edited by Worst_luck#4486 on Mar 25, 2017, 9:58:22 PM
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JhonnyZ wrote:
Just killed all Guardians and Shaper with your build. Thanks a lot, Worst_Luck and philophil!

The damage is absurd and it clears very smoothly. I love it!

My gear I'm using: (Pathfinder)
Spoiler





Now just need money for a Skyforth's. (and craft a better wand for more deeps)


Great to know man, glad you liked it.

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