2 Characters, 1 Build: 1.25 BILLION damage Part 1

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lillbysen wrote:
is it possible at all to play solo.. i dont mind if its weaker.. I like the conversion ALOT.. very smart indeed :)

Great builds!

I mean like could it work as coc solo player or something?, if it does alot of damage it doesnt need to get triggerd all the time. Perhaps even CwC?

yo i'm the necrobot/chargesbot in the vid
you can definitely combine both halves of the build into one weaker version but will still be able to tackle endgame

you will need these items:
Spoiler
-Tulfall
-Romira's Banquet
-Rise of the Phoenix
-Kingsguard


and these gems:
Spoiler
-Incinerate(Lv8)
-Cast while Channeling
-Discharge
-Cold to Fire
-Controlled Destruction
-Empower (you will have to play with a lower level incinerate when u use empower to reduce its mana cost)

and this is the skill tree:
Spoiler
https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAABAMCAQQHBLMFLQj0DjwPqxLhFHEV5xZvFr8W8xiRGjgdFB8CIWAi9CTYJjwmlScvLIUt0i-dNj02xTpSOlg62DwFPV9AoEV8RrdMi0yzUEJSU1M1VK5VS1WFVcZWSFnzWhpeE2FSYeJirGaeaGVqQ2t6bAtsjG0ZbWxyD3Kpc7N07Xaseu990oIHgpuD24VthmCMNo9GkFWQ-pHOktCTJ5eVl5eX9Jo7naqfPp_fogCly6cIrKqvjbvtvJ_AVMBmyL_PftNv1AfVgdgk2Xzcjd9t34rjauoY7DjvS-9O73zwH_Br8933Mvjr-tL8Sw==


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mazengamedawy wrote:

glad you're having fun with it ,so happy some 1 trying it out :D ,there were lots of choices for ascendancy,berkser is even very solid,but we went for the elementalist for the reflect probls without using the ring or rotf,but ye the wep swap is ideal,also try goin for darkray+1 instead of +1 endurance boots,the frenzy nets out more total dmg when you factor in the 4% more dmg dbl dipping,doesnt matter rly ,anything dies anw :D


I much prefer having the move speed all the time so Death's Door is better IMHO.

Also when I saw them for 145c instead of +2 frenzy darkrays at 200c, I couldn't resist :D
@BeerPact
Reflect is with the right setup as Elementalist no problem at all.
Just go with the Elementalist 50% reduction + Sibyll's Lament + Fortify -> 50% + 30% +20% reduction -> No reflect dmg incoming.

There is no other way to survive reflect with a Realm Ender.
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saphisreturn wrote:
Reflect is with the right setup as Elementalist no problem at all.
Just go with the Elementalist 50% reduction + Sibyll's Lament + Fortify -> 50% + 30% +20% reduction -> No reflect dmg incoming.

There is no other way to survive reflect with a Realm Ender.

elementalist+fortify+necrobot's purity was enough to not die to any reflect rare in the game.
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theapplepie wrote:
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saphisreturn wrote:
Reflect is with the right setup as Elementalist no problem at all.
Just go with the Elementalist 50% reduction + Sibyll's Lament + Fortify -> 50% + 30% +20% reduction -> No reflect dmg incoming.

There is no other way to survive reflect with a Realm Ender.

elementalist+fortify+necrobot's purity was enough to not die to any reflect rare in the game.


wait until you start doing Assassin damage.. ;-)
@BeerPact

you killed the chracter.. can you give me info on what happened to it what gear you used and the gem links etc i wanna make this version while the discharger is offline i already made ur necrobot minus shavs ring

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theapplepie wrote:
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lillbysen wrote:
is it possible at all to play solo.. i dont mind if its weaker.. I like the conversion ALOT.. very smart indeed :)

Great builds!

I mean like could it work as coc solo player or something?, if it does alot of damage it doesnt need to get triggerd all the time. Perhaps even CwC?

yo i'm the necrobot/chargesbot in the vid
you can definitely combine both halves of the build into one weaker version but will still be able to tackle endgame

you will need these items:
Spoiler
-Tulfall
-Romira's Banquet
-Rise of the Phoenix
-Kingsguard


and these gems:
Spoiler
-Incinerate(Lv8)
-Cast while Channeling
-Discharge
-Cold to Fire
-Controlled Destruction
-Empower (you will have to play with a lower level incinerate when u use empower to reduce its mana cost)

and this is the skill tree:
Spoiler
https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAABAMCAQQHBLMFLQj0DjwPqxLhFHEV5xZvFr8W8xiRGjgdFB8CIWAi9CTYJjwmlScvLIUt0i-dNj02xTpSOlg62DwFPV9AoEV8RrdMi0yzUEJSU1M1VK5VS1WFVcZWSFnzWhpeE2FSYeJirGaeaGVqQ2t6bAtsjG0ZbWxyD3Kpc7N07Xaseu990oIHgpuD24VthmCMNo9GkFWQ-pHOktCTJ5eVl5eX9Jo7naqfPp_fogCly6cIrKqvjbvtvJ_AVMBmyL_PftNv1AfVgdgk2Xzcjd9t34rjauoY7DjvS-9O73zwH_Br8933Mvjr-tL8Sw==


check my profile for the character named "OmarMahmoud"
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Last edited by Toaster404#7147 on Jan 27, 2017, 3:46:04 AM
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theapplepie wrote:

elementalist+fortify+necrobot's purity was enough to not die to any reflect rare in the game.


Tried the same with my friend, even with Purity 23.. oneshot to reflect @ Dried Lake (HC).

If you calculate the incoming damage, there is absolutely no way to deal with it, without using Sibyll's.
Let's say you deal 1kk dmg to the monster (whats not that much), even then you deal over 7k ref dmg.. and good luck getting lot more hitpoints than 7k.
-> 1000000 * 0.15 (reflect) * 0.3 (70% reduction) * 0.16 (Reduction due to high Fire Res) = 7200 dmg incoming
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saphisreturn wrote:
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theapplepie wrote:

elementalist+fortify+necrobot's purity was enough to not die to any reflect rare in the game.


Tried the same with my friend, even with Purity 23.. oneshot to reflect @ Dried Lake (HC).

If you calculate the incoming damage, there is absolutely no way to deal with it, without using Sibyll's.
Let's say you deal 1kk dmg to the monster (whats not that much), even then you deal over 7k ref dmg.. and good luck getting lot more hitpoints than 7k.
-> 1000000 * 0.15 (reflect) * 0.3 (70% reduction) * 0.16 (Reduction due to high Fire Res) = 7200 dmg incoming



Lightning damage with increased damage mods and crit multi
damage = 38,368x4.1= 157,308.8= 157,308

More multipliers
32% "frenzy charges
43% wrath "aura effect=69+39 (generosity)"
0.8 "prolif less damage"
"rf,cont dest,conc effect,and shock aren't used in mapping so non of them are present in this equation,also you use ele prolif +aoe,also -res and penetration doesnt count here,say the prolif will make you deal 20% less damage

Lightning damage dealt =157,308x1.32*1.43*0.8 = 237,547.66464 = 237,547

Cold+fire damage with increased damage mods and crit multi
damage = 74,485x4.1= 305,388.5= 305,388

More multipliers
32% frenzy charges
0.8 elemental prolif"


Cold+fire damage dealt = 305,388*1.32*0.8 = 322,489.728 = 322,489

Total damage =237,547+322,489 = 560,036
"note that the increased damage mods taken into this have situational things also like
40% fire damage "ascendancy recently hit"
100% elemental damage "every 4 sec" so damage dealt should be even lower "

Fire res 82%
reduced reflect damage taken from elementalist =50%
fortify =20%
Reflect value =15%

Damage Reflected = 560,036 *0.18*0.5*0.8*0.15 =6048.3888 =6048

you should have more than 6048 life simply and you will survive reflect without the use of lvl 23 purity of fire or ruby flask even ,just your casual gameplay.
if you're concerned some boss might have reflect and with single target setup you might die,i only use single target for 3 things,shaper,pheonix,uber atziri "uber atziri got 1% reflect while cating nothing that matters,the other 3 guardians will melt to your burn even with aoe setup,and non of these 6 end game things reflect,core malachai dies 1 hit with aoe setup and you can even stunlock him for the lols if you spam discharges..
There you go,with numbers :D

Edit:all damage numbers here are with max potentioal,aka 23 charges and almost perfect gear ,lvl 4 empower lvl 21 discharge,everything,oh and also ,reflect is based on how much damage the monster took not how much you dealt,most monsters wont be able to survive ur initial hit fully,their life is lower,so in most cases you'll take even less damage,if you encounter a monster with higher life than your hit,the max you'll do is 6048
,have more,and you're safe.
Last edited by mazengamedawy#0078 on Jan 27, 2017, 8:25:32 AM
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mazengamedawy wrote:


Lightning damage with increased damage mods and crit multi
damage = 38,368x4.1= 157,308.8= 157,308

More multipliers
32% "frenzy charges
43% wrath "aura effect=69+39 (generosity)"
0.8 "prolif less damage"
"rf,cont dest,conc effect,and shock aren't used in mapping so non of them are present in this equation,also you use ele prolif +aoe,also -res and penetration doesnt count here,say the prolif will make you deal 20% less damage

Lightning damage dealt =157,308x1.32*1.43*0.8 = 237,547.66464 = 237,547

Cold+fire damage with increased damage mods and crit multi
damage = 74,485x4.1= 305,388.5= 305,388

More multipliers
32% frenzy charges
0.8 elemental prolif"


Cold+fire damage dealt = 305,388*1.32*0.8 = 322,489.728 = 322,489

Total damage =237,547+322,489 = 560,036
"note that the increased damage mods taken into this have situational things also like
40% fire damage "ascendancy recently hit"
100% elemental damage "every 4 sec" so damage dealt should be even lower "

Fire res 82%
reduced reflect damage taken from elementalist =50%
fortify =20%
Reflect value =15%

Damage Reflected = 560,036 *0.18*0.5*0.8*0.15 =6048.3888 =6048

you should have more than 6048 life simply and you will survive reflect without the use of lvl 23 purity of fire or ruby flask even ,just your casual gameplay.
if you're concerned some boss might have reflect and with single target setup you might die,i only use single target for 3 things,shaper,pheonix,uber atziri "uber atziri got 1% reflect while cating nothing that matters,the other 3 guardians will melt to your burn even with aoe setup,and non of these 6 end game things reflect,core malachai dies 1 hit with aoe setup and you can even stunlock him for the lols if you spam discharges..
There you go,with numbers :D

Edit:all damage numbers here are with max potentioal,aka 23 charges and almost perfect gear ,lvl 4 empower lvl 21 discharge,everything,oh and also ,reflect is based on how much damage the monster took not how much you dealt,most monsters wont be able to survive ur initial hit fully,their life is lower,so in most cases you'll take even less damage,if you encounter a monster with higher life than your hit,the max you'll do is 6048
,have more,and you're safe.



You're forgetting a lot of multiplier/increases like over 200% resistance reduction?
My friend was already doing @ lvl 80 more dps than 500,000 dmg (actually like 300,000 tooltip with inc aoe and prolif) -> now calculate the res reduction in and its around 1kk dps.

My friend died oneshot to reflect, and he had 84% fire res etc.. so show me a video how to survive reflect, kinda interested in seeing it. :)
Last edited by Toaster404#7147 on Jan 27, 2017, 12:35:01 PM

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