[2.5] CI Meatball Blender! Cyclone AoF Pathfinder! Ngamahu's Flame

One last thing. I have tried something different. Ive wanted to put in Shapers gloves since they have been buffed. The biggest problem is losing resist. Attack speed I will speak about later and ES ofc.



I thought crap im going to lose lots of ES. I had a flat pair of gloves with 150 resist. Swapped to these and ended up with 150 more es.

The good part was this. Due to the conversion and my current stats. I got...


560 flat accuracy - This means now that when I look for rings, I dont have to have accuracy in them and i can get attack speed to make up for gloves. If not in the helm then one ring is all you need. Sitting on 93% acc atm.

30% energy shield flat due to the STR conversion and xophs is str based. In fact... a 30+ strength node now gives me 6% energy shield. So to min max , I removed 5% es nodes and just took the +30 str nodes. Great for str gems if you have.

Almost 60% evasion rating which means shit due to not being evasion but i guess its a bonus

the BIGGEST thing about these gloves besides the accuracy strategy was that in my 5link you have melee physical but not the other red gem as I do not have a 6link. Well no problem.

When the gloves converted my DEX into melee physical damage I got MORE % than a fully leveled melee damage on full life gem. The great thing is that we are Dex based. I got + 66% melee physical extra as dps.

The only downside are two factors. Resist on the gloves doesn't exist and (havent tested this) but with a pair of gloves over 200es, it may out scale these but most people wont be able to get a GG pair of gloves with attack speed, 200+ es and resists at a good roll.

I would highly recommend these. As I have found nothing but good things.

PS: The gloves still have ES on them so you do get that scaling AND due to armour/es you can roll that ONE hard gem setup you need that you wont normally get on ES items e.g RRRG, RRRB

- my 2 cents

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Ziiyo wrote:

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Loocid wrote:

Thoughts on getting Primeval force in the bottom left now? Its a bit out of the way but its a juicy cluster.

So unlike the OP, I went for primeval. It is a MUCH better path. You get 76% perma ele dps with reflect mitigation and penetration.

The Ele overload is a shit node as we are NOT a crit spec and even when it procs you only get 40%, its a proc so it could be down. You also have to path way out to get it. The ONLY thing that is good out there is the huge es node with lightning +1. This is still not good enough to waste all those points. When you can still get 6% ES nodes in the scion wheeel.

Anyways, did lots of testing and pathing. For me primeval is one of the best things on the tree.

EO should be up all the time with a Diamond Flask. I am using one on LSC and it is always up. It is 4 travel nodes to EO and has the ES cluster there as you said. Not really terrible when you consider it is up almost all the time and is a multiplicative increase. EO is made for diamond flask and/or stacking attack speed, which is the best stat for the build.

Primeval is 3 travel nodes and has nothing else of use around it. You have to path all the way out to get it just like EO. If you feel like you don't need the ES then try out Primeval. It is a great node for sure.

Shaper's touch looks really interesting. Definitely an item worth checking out. Might try it out here soon.

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Grocery wrote:

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Ziiyo wrote:

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Loocid wrote:

Thoughts on getting Primeval force in the bottom left now? Its a bit out of the way but its a juicy cluster.

So unlike the OP, I went for primeval. It is a MUCH better path. You get 76% perma ele dps with reflect mitigation and penetration.

The Ele overload is a shit node as we are NOT a crit spec and even when it procs you only get 40%, its a proc so it could be down. You also have to path way out to get it. The ONLY thing that is good out there is the huge es node with lightning +1. This is still not good enough to waste all those points. When you can still get 6% ES nodes in the scion wheeel.

Anyways, did lots of testing and pathing. For me primeval is one of the best things on the tree.

EO should be up all the time with a Diamond Flask. I am using one on LSC and it is always up. It is 4 travel nodes to EO and has the ES cluster there as you said. Not really terrible when you consider it is up almost all the time and is a multiplicative increase. EO is made for diamond flask and/or stacking attack speed, which is the best stat for the build.

Primeval is 3 travel nodes and has nothing else of use around it. You have to path all the way out to get it just like EO. If you feel like you don't need the ES then try out Primeval. It is a great node for sure.

Shaper's touch looks really interesting. Definitely an item worth checking out. Might try it out here soon.

Fully agree, I do like prime over EO but that is a preference. I would suggest trying those gloves. SUPER underated but worth every penny :) .

Let me know how you find the gloves.

Hi guys, I know this isn't the place for it, but I'm doing a life based slayer version of this build. Check out the tree, you can get EO and Primeval Force (but life based so not as high EHP).

http://poeplanner.com/AAYAAQcUAACBZU1Hfr02VvqPYG8nmmqsqkCgducirzhTqZSHapBsqSf3Mmhl890kqjbpFm_janIPcqkhYO0ggpvhc62NdqzPfo25_W6xfMPmfys6UlZIhO8wfJBVGjgnL419TZIj9sSCivCkwnrv028FLXTtRrcYkRRNvJ_8SxR1Z6Djn4d2Sn3AZu98PAXawdgkZlSE2frSxyqbLV4TZp6iAPAfBLO-p1fid-UyiV85sKt08RRxWfP46xpsna6GYHfXOtgOPBjb6hhhUu9OpwiUb2jy8kHZfIIHkn3cI5hv5c8XL2TnVdaApNlhGS7Uj2eb5FFQR-8OFCCGtIWnsoA7tqU1DHD1YSefAAAAAAA=

P.

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mrpetrov wrote:

Hi guys, I know this isn't the place for it, but I'm doing a life based slayer version of this build. Check out the tree, you can get EO and Primeval Force (but life based so not as high EHP).

http://poeplanner.com/AAYAAQcUAACBZU1Hfr02VvqPYG8nmmqsqkCgducirzhTqZSHapBsqSf3Mmhl890kqjbpFm_janIPcqkhYO0ggpvhc62NdqzPfo25_W6xfMPmfys6UlZIhO8wfJBVGjgnL419TZIj9sSCivCkwnrv028FLXTtRrcYkRRNvJ_8SxR1Z6Djn4d2Sn3AZu98PAXawdgkZlSE2frSxyqbLV4TZp6iAPAfBLO-p1fid-UyiV85sKt08RRxWfP46xpsna6GYHfXOtgOPBjb6hhhUu9OpwiUb2jy8kHZfIIHkn3cI5hv5c8XL2TnVdaApNlhGS7Uj2eb5FFQR-8OFCCGtIWnsoA7tqU1DHD1YSefAAAAAAA=

P.

Not sure as I have not played life version. seems like a stretch to get to EO as life.

Hey guys, I am currently running this build on LSC. I am level 90 with all the basics (axe,xophs blood) using valyrium becauae I cant afford skyforths yet. I do have a vinktars/dying sun. I was wondering what you think about running a taming since its fairly affordable now and we pretty much have perma shock with vinktars as well as some ignite. Also what are your thoughts on the wise oak flask. With flask effectiveness i can see it being strong with this build.

Character is in profile, im on mobile and to lazy to link things sorry.

ye i wanted to ask about wise oak too :P

also did anyone actually calculated the dmg output with fire pen instead of added fire, as i already wrote guys in slayer thread calculated that its actually better but im not sure and i dont know how to check it

Does getting a Vinktar's with the Adds Lightning Damage to Attacks necessary? Doesn't all of our damage get converted to fire? Is Vinktar's just for the shock?

Please correct me if I am wrong.

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ryatwo wrote:

Does getting a Vinktar's with the Adds Lightning Damage to Attacks necessary? Doesn't all of our damage get converted to fire? Is Vinktar's just for the shock?

Please correct me if I am wrong.

the damage you get from the vinktar's attack dmg gets converted to fire damage so it does help. The shock is of course the more important part imo so you can constantly get 100% increased flask charges gained from veteran bowyer.

I'm running this char on legacy SC right now and it's pretty good. Not as fast clearing as something like vaal spark or pizza sticks or ST but it does have a lot of damage to make up for it, especially on bosses.

I'll try the wise oak flask once ive rebalanced my resists in order to take advantage of it properly.

not fast clearing ? when i was playing it in Breach with pretty decent items (55k Cyclone with Golem and 10k ES) i was clearing strands way faster then Spectral Throw, ofc rather noone can touch Vaal Spark speed but still u get pretty fast clear and u can clear all bosses with it and also with all the items and flasks u are pretty much unkillable while maping.


however i don't know if aoe nerfs changed clear that much



btw

would u rather get 6 link 700~ regalia and then cheaper gloves boots ring amu

or 5 link and better rest of them?

i would be left with around 300c after buing 6 link regalia