[2.6] CI HoWA ST - Uber / Shaper / Guardians Down - Budget Friendly?

Hello everyone,

I leveled this char following this guide and the one from Mathil, and I really like this build.

I am actually level 89 and thinking where to put my skills point now.

Mathil took Alchemist for flask effect and duration, is it worth ? With 3 points, we can get Lightning walker to increase our damage.
And about Fangs of the viper, do we use physical or chaos damage ? I think not, it's probably for the 20 dexterity (intelligence) but in this case, can I pick something else ?

I am planning to go for ES bottom of Deep Wisdom or Lightning walker, what do you think ?

Thanks for your help.
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Piros wrote:
@KasperBN: Yolo means throw some exalted orbs at it and hope to get the mods that will turn it from a decent item to a high-end GG item...


Ah ok thank you...are my boots worth that, with no +ES on them?


I wonder what should be my next priority. Got about 250 chaos to spare. I was thinking about the following, in no particular order:
- Chaos spamming my Regalia for at least 700 ES, not sure if 250c gives me decent enough odds
- Enchanting my rings for +%ES at the cost of 1 exalt each, might be a bit upset if I get +5%
- Buying a Vessel of Vinktar
- Yolo exalting something (which would be the most optimal?)

For the record I have ~1100 int, ~500 dex, and ~8500 ES. I went for the exact tree as in the OP except I took 2 less jewel nodes and got the ES nodes near Witch start, mainly because I'm too poor to afford good jewels and my ES felt a bit low.
Got to level 86 with this build and guess what: gear is so expensive right now that i'm strugling to build ES and DPS.

I upgraded my chest and boots during the weekend and, now, in HO, with golem (lvl 18), wrath (lvl 19) and discipline (lvl 19), i'm sitting at:

7,177 ES
25,722 DPS

But when i look for upgrades on poe.trade, decent gear costs at least 90-100 chaos a piece.

That's a bit disapointing, since this build is prety cool to play, but i just can't afford the upgrades i need.

On a second thought: i see some people throwing their STs very far away, and i think it comes from projectile speed. Where do you guys get that from? Jewels?

Current Gear:
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Last edited by Krazy_X#0125 on Jan 29, 2017, 1:07:51 PM
I attempted shaper twice last night and could get him down almost all the way but could not kill him. Can someone look at my build and make some suggestions?

Here is my gear




https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAIBAAHRAecDHgQHBfkOSBEvEVARgRGWFHUV1xXwFyYZihnXGlUbJRvIHU8fAh9BIuoi9CPTKjgrCiy_LR8uUzW5Nj02xTboPL5B0EMxRmlMs0z_TipU_lWFVkhWY1b6Whpbr13yX2pfcGEhY6dsC20ZbWxvJ3XLd9d6hH_Gg22ExYTvhq6Nfo9gj_qQCpMnk5WVzJcGmmqbtZ_LoSKhL6JAo4qly6crpzCtM6_rtUi3tr3mvoq-p8HFwzPDOsSiz93QH9Ct0NDTb9N-2CTY1dlb2sHdRud06NbqYusU62PsGO0_7g7veu_r8Yr0-Plj?accountName=untitledsn41&characterName=RIPPERONIOBAMA


I know i need a new vessel of Vinktar


HO DPS Slower Project with Wrath and Golem:55,601
HO DOS Greater Multiple with Wrath and Golem:32,193
HO Shield with Discipline: 10,105
INT: 1265
DEX: 355

Please look at my profile to see jewels i have in passive tree.

Thanks in advance!!
Last edited by untitledsn41#5738 on Jan 29, 2017, 3:30:33 PM
I'm stuck, I need someone to guide me on what should I buy to finish cruel-merciless.
First time playing with an ES-CI character(this is my 2nd character actually), struggling in cruel act3 (lvl 50) right now.
I HAVE ONLY 1k HP - 500ES - EleRES almost capped - 1,5k ST DPS...
I have 80c to spend
I know I'm missing a lot of utility gems like Immortal call but my problem is that I don't know if I should be starting to stack ES now or go for HP and wait for lvl 68, so I can't start working on sockets/links before I know that
What I'm using (sorry if your eyes bleed i know a lot of this is trash or useless at this point)

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Tree (should i go for Ghost Reaver now? or what is the minimum ES required ?:
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https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAIAAAHRAx4F-QceDkgRLxGWFHUV8BmKG8gfQSLqI9Mj9io4Kwo2PU2STipW-luvXfJirGyMbWxvJ3fXhMWPYJXMlwaaapu1naqhIqJAo4qv67VIu-PDOsSiz93WWOd06NbrFOtj7T_uDvGK9Pj5Y_66


Softcore Breach League VexEmeriss
Last edited by Vexfere#6409 on Jan 29, 2017, 4:25:51 PM
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untitledsn41 wrote:
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Look for 2x Claw with 12% int and maybe 11% dex, got my 12/12 for 35c each and 12/11 is probably around 20c. If you skip out ES on rings you can get ones with both %WED and lightning damage, but might not be better than what you have though. Depends on if you're lacking damage or survival.
Last edited by Kamelkungen#7324 on Jan 29, 2017, 5:33:17 PM
Well I'm pretty much at a point where I don't know what to upgrade. Can do all the content with ease so I guess theres not much point. Think my gear right now is almost worth 100 ex lol. Guess gloves and boots would be next but I'm not really sure.

gear
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Piros wrote:
@KasperBN: Yolo means throw some exalted orbs at it and hope to get the mods that will turn it from a decent item to a high-end GG item...

@Kamel: I was looking at the Eye of Chayula, or 80% stun avoidance boot enchant + Heart of Oak option the other day... and if I did that, I would drop more than 3 passives... I'd drop all the way back to the Frenzy nodes and get rid of Brute Force solution, make the Jewel near the start a 3rd Fertile mind instead, and make a few more changes

Something like this:
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https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAIBAAHRAx4EBwX5DY0OSA-rES8RUBGBEZYV1xXwFr8XJhmKGdcbyB1PHwIfQSPTKjgrCiy_LR8uUzW5Nj02xTy-QdBDMUyzTP9OKlBCVP5VhVZIVmNW-loaW69d8l9qX3BiWmOnbRltbG8ndct6hH_Gg22ExYaujDaNfo9gj_qQCpOVlcyXBppqm7WiLqOKpcunK60zr-u1SLe2vea-p8HFwzPDOsSiz93QH9Ct0NDTb9N-2CTY1drB3UbfmOOE6mLsGO0_7g7v6_GK-WP8xfkz5-rvepMnvoqhL2wLIvQ31FFH3vikeMHVflki6ujW53TrFNlbGyVLrukC


That tree isn't my creation, but an amalgamation of a number of trees I've seen I think... and its a few levels above what i can at lvl 93... but the main options I think at my point at the attack speed & accuracy cluster to the far right and the ES% cluster heading down to the Witch Start...

Compare to my actual tree:
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https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAIBAAHRAecDHgQHBfkNjQ5ID6sRLxFQEYERlhXXFfAWvxcmGYoZ1xpVG8gdTx8CH0Ej0ySLJJ0qOCsKLL8tHy5TNbk2PTbFNug8vkHQQzFGaUyzTP9OKlBCVP5VhVZIVmNW-loaW69d8l9qX3BhIWJaY6dsjG0ZbWxvJ3XLeoR_xoNthMWE74auhymMNo1-j2CP-pAKk5WVIJXMlwaaapu1naqfy6Eioi6iQKKjo4qly6crpzCtM6_rtUi3tr3mvqfBxcHzwzPDOsSiz93QH9Ct0NDTb9N-2CTY1drB3UbfmOOE6mLsGO0_7g7v6_GK9Pj5Y_zF?accountName=Piros&characterName=SlateHoWA
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EDIT: I just noticed I still have 2 life-tree nodes active... I just removed them from the other tree but left them unfixed here as a mini-PSA


@mauls/Trenhard: I too, have mostly stuck to Shaped Mesa/Strand... been wearing the same gear since I started except making my 5L into a 6L basically... now at 8.2k ES and 51k hideout DPS with Wrath, Golem, Protector... using mostly 20/20 gems and Added Lightning

Shaped Mesa is a cakewalk... Strand feels slow sometimes with all the packsize mods slowing me down (actually been a little while since I ran Strand a bunch... working on faster Tiers for challenge... could be faster now)... anyway, all this setup was to say I tried a corrupted Maze of the Minotaur yesterday with a guildie... the trash mobs were nothing special really... few more close calls than normal, but I mostly because my guildie was Flameblast and I didnt see the fire explosion Bloodlines on the ground... Minotaur tho was rough... forgot to put Slower Projectiles in, and didnt know the fight really, so died 3x each and failed... but we got him down to about 25%... and in much less time than Void's low DPS demonstration videos... so I think its entirely doable with my gear with more experience...

I know my DPS numbers might seem high compared to new people trying the build, but really there's still a lot of room for improvement in my gear... its just a matter of leveling gems, equipping a temporary one while you turn your 0/20 into a 20/1 and then leveling it up to 20/18 where you can swap it back in (that's how I did it anyway, using off-slot weapons) and I took some more offensive nodes in the ranger and shadow areas that gave some more attack speed and elemental damage... at my dps, 8-12% attack speed is worth 1-2k dps whereas 10 int is worth 300-400dps I think


Yes thinking about stuns I would say the 80% enchanment on boots and i think running a Kiara's would than allow a tree like attached.
http://poeplanner.com/AAQAAP8SIAB9r-sB0aJA9PihIsSilwYF-RXw-WOVzO0_VP695qOK7g5W-t1GY6cRgXfXFHVbr5AKTioj028nmmqPYEz_QzGNfre2dcvqYsMzWhrawS5T02--pxmKwzoqOJu1hMUi6ujW6xTndG1sNj3rYxEvtUgDHh9BKwobyM_d8YpVhaXLXfIOSBGWk5WtMxnXf8aTJ76KoS_BxewYLL8V14auVmOP-tDQX2psCyL0bRkRUDW5pysdTy0fTLPQH-_rBAcfAjbF2CRWSKcI6-4c3I8a-wn22hqPpMLK07QM6roNfA-rFr_vetN-WFpSKVXgFyZ6hNCtQdBfcINtPL7Y1QAAAAAA

Cold be woth looking into
Cheers
Coolz
Im using 3 fertile mind jewels each converting 60 dex to 60 int. My accuracy is 77% and I can take out 2 of the 3 fertile mind jewels and my tooltip will go up. Taking out the 3rd fertile mind it finally goes down. My accuracy goes up by 3% from the 60 dex when I dont use fertile mind. Does this mean dex > int to a certain point until you have around 85% accuracy?
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