[2.6] CI HoWA ST - Uber / Shaper / Guardians Down - Budget Friendly?

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Aias_o_Telamonios wrote:
For me 19/20 added lightning adds 5K and 20/20 faster attacks adds 8K (tooltip). Also faster is so much nicer to use. I don't know why others have said they're equivalent.


because tooltip does not count penetration and whatnot, added lightning damage will do more damage with flasks up no matter what, however faster attacks is more annoying to roll on a chest piece as you would need 3 green instead of 2.

it could also add to the fact that a quality FA gem gives more attack speed while a quality ALD gives 10% more lightning damage.
Last edited by bupkiss#0201 on Apr 16, 2017, 11:15:55 AM
With more % elemental damage boost on rings and stuff + with the lightning pen and flasks I'm pretty sure added lightning will give more damage, specially if you get one of the essence crafted "30% lightning damage" rings aswell + ele dmg.

but playing with faster attacks can feel more "smooth" for sure.
Last edited by Hjelpen93#0855 on Apr 16, 2017, 11:22:10 AM
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bupkiss wrote:
added lightning damage will do more damage with flasks up no matter what


Would you care to elaborate on that ? An example with numbers perhaps ?

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bupkiss wrote:
a quality ALD gives 10% more lightning damage.


No it does not. It gives increased. Big difference.

Also an advantage of FA that noone has mentioned is that since you get more hits you have a better chance of keeping EO up permanently. And that's a huge boost.
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Last edited by Aias_o_Telamonios#0275 on Apr 16, 2017, 1:18:17 PM
I think it's easier to achieve high attack speed through jewels + skill points than getting flat lightning damage, so, for me in a high end setup ALD > FA .

Also I'd like to know, in the scenario where u could handle a third aura , which option would you choose:
(considering +1 gloves Enlighten lvl 4)
1- Empower 4 + Wrath 21 + Discipline 21
2 - Wrath 21 + Discipline 21 + Herald of Thunder 21
3- Wrath 21+ Discipline 21 + AA 21

Thanks in advance guys !!
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Tíndalos wrote:
I think it's easier to achieve high attack speed through jewels + skill points than getting flat lightning damage, so, for me in a high end setup ALD > FA .

Also I'd like to know, in the scenario where u could handle a third aura , which option would you choose:
(considering +1 gloves Enlighten lvl 4)
1- Empower 4 + Wrath 21 + Discipline 21
2 - Wrath 21 + Discipline 21 + Herald of Thunder 21
3- Wrath 21+ Discipline 21 + AA 21

Thanks in advance guys !!


Your numbers are off as Wrath is base 50%, before reduction. It is not the same as Discipline which is 35% base.
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Last edited by svartbob2#6735 on Apr 16, 2017, 5:42:28 PM
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apparat07 wrote:
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Tíndalos wrote:
I think it's easier to achieve high attack speed through jewels + skill points than getting flat lightning damage, so, for me in a high end setup ALD > FA .

Also I'd like to know, in the scenario where u could handle a third aura , which option would you choose:
(considering +1 gloves Enlighten lvl 4)
1- Empower 4 + Wrath 21 + Discipline 21
2 - Wrath 21 + Discipline 21 + Herald of Thunder 21
3- Wrath 21+ Discipline 21 + AA 21

Thanks in advance guys !!


Your numbers are off as Wrath is base 50%, before reduction. It is not the same as Discipline which is 35% base.

Srry, what??? I know I can handle a third aura of the lesser ones like AA or herald, so i'm asking which options of the ones I mentioned would be the best one. Those numbers are the level of the Aura not the %mana reserved.....
Last edited by Tíndalos#6814 on Apr 16, 2017, 7:34:15 PM
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Tíndalos wrote:
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apparat07 wrote:
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Tíndalos wrote:
I think it's easier to achieve high attack speed through jewels + skill points than getting flat lightning damage, so, for me in a high end setup ALD > FA .

Also I'd like to know, in the scenario where u could handle a third aura , which option would you choose:
(considering +1 gloves Enlighten lvl 4)
1- Empower 4 + Wrath 21 + Discipline 21
2 - Wrath 21 + Discipline 21 + Herald of Thunder 21
3- Wrath 21+ Discipline 21 + AA 21

Thanks in advance guys !!


Your numbers are off as Wrath is base 50%, before reduction. It is not the same as Discipline which is 35% base.

Srry, what??? I know I can handle a third aura of the lesser ones like AA or herald, so i'm asking which options of the ones I mentioned would be the best one. Those numbers are the level of the Aura not the %mana reserved.....


Empower is the best for dmg and mana reservation. You'd be left out with 12% unreserved mana and you are looking at a gain of around 5% damage. But in my opinion it's not really worth it.

St has a pretty high mana cost. I often find myself ooming real fast if i don't have anything to leech off from(that's with 26% unreserved mana) and together with WB spam it can become a real pain especially when you switch in slow proj.
Last edited by boonobosMike#1200 on Apr 16, 2017, 10:18:02 PM
Are there any 2.6 skill tree
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Signatures01 wrote:
Are there any 2.6 skill tree

Revised trees for 2.6.

28 points

66 points

87 points

After you hit this, you'll need to have ES gear and a bunch of refund points, so you can switch from life based to CI based. When you get your ES gear and 88 points to spend, you respec to this tree:

CI Respec at 88 points

111 points
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