[2.6] CRIT HoWA BF/ST Raider [13k ES, 60k BF/265k GMP ST DPS, Stun-immune] [4 sec Chayula kill]

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burz96 wrote:
What's the reasoning behind using a Sulphur Flask?

edit: disregard


No particular reason, just more damage haha

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renroval wrote:
Is Crit ST a lot stronger than the non Crit counterpart in 2.6? Or is the difference small that it really wouldn't matter in the long run and that non Crit is cheaper overall?


in terms of DPS numbers, Crit ST outdpses the non-crit counterpart by about 20-30% i think? u can compare the DPS screenshots in this thread (keep in mind that was 2.5, so the numbers ought to be higher now with the buff to the claw cluster) with the non-crit threads to get a rough idea. in terms of actual gameplay u probably wouldn't notice much difference. in terms of price... in all honesty i don't think the crit version is more expensive than the non-crit. there is no skyforth involved after all.

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TheMaster88 wrote:
Hi, could you help me with this Build? https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/TheMaster88
i keep dieng at bosses and dont know what im doing wrong, i try to play CI Witch Version...


Hey, your character is naked so I can't really assess the deficiencies in your gear. Which bosses do you have problems with?

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garewin wrote:
Hey, I have been following your build, and at level 84 with all labyrinths done I only have 38k dps in hideout.
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The gear that I use is as follows:
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The tree I'm using right now can be seen at my profile page, character "DucksGoQuack" on Legacy.
Any idea what am I doing wrong? I can't seem to figure it out myself, because gem quality surely won't get me almost three times the damage that I am at right now.
Cheers.


Hey, its probably a combination of gear as well as the fact that you haven't yet invested points into the crit clusters at soul raker and claws of the falcon. Just grabbing another 2 jewel sockets as well as the above-mentioned clusters will bring your dps up to 70k without any power or frenzy charges. You also have about 1k int at the moment. I think my character had about 1.2k int, so if you can get your int to that level it'll be another 20% boost to your damage. Also look to get an amulet with >30% crit multi. That will be a further damage boost. In all honesty I think you're doing really well considering its still the first week of the league. Definitely way better dps than I had at this stage last league...

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vileArchon wrote:
Hi All,

what do you think of Incandescent heart chest once speccd into CI, it provides 8% extra all res (with CI) as well as 10% chaos conversion dmg.

I am also having issues getting stunlocked. I am still around 12 points away from unwavering stance and way too poor to afford skyforths. DO you think eye of chayula would be worth buying and equipping until i get US?


I think the lack of ES on Incandescent heart is more detrimental than the bonus it provides, but thats just me. Yup I think eye of chayula or even valyrium (its cheaper) is definitely a viable temporary option.
Build of the Week 14
The first Righteous Fire/Non-Shavronne's/Shavronne's HC
Shameless self-proclaimed theory-crafting extraordinaire and forum crusader
Hello i want to try this build out since i always wanted try it but couldnt afford anyway my budget is 8-10ex in LSC and i got this chest piece
so im wondering if its enough for this build?
Last edited by Gopstop22 on Mar 8, 2017, 3:52:11 PM
How does this build compare to

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1816191

Seems like the tooltip DPS is so much higher with pretty good ES/survivability. I guess lack of stun immunity but the damage is so much higher.
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renroval wrote:
How does this build compare to

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1816191

Seems like the tooltip DPS is so much higher with pretty good ES/survivability. I guess lack of stun immunity but the damage is so much higher.


It's fine, just dont expect to face tank everything. Compare it to a build that might use regen as its form of survivability. Here's the thing, do you really need to double the DPS of a build that already downs guardians / shaper at a rate faster than most builds? You certainly can...but you lose the ability to get into some "shit" in maps, and survive. For instance; this league, ive survived some pretty crazy mods while popping breaches and living. Watching my ES go from capped to ~1000 several times as second.

I dont think that build will do it, but maybe?

Why don't you try it and see how it is.

PS - WTS
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JSquiggle wrote:
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renroval wrote:
How does this build compare to

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1816191

Seems like the tooltip DPS is so much higher with pretty good ES/survivability. I guess lack of stun immunity but the damage is so much higher.


It's fine, just dont expect to face tank everything. Compare it to a build that might use regen as its form of survivability. Here's the thing, do you really need to double the DPS of a build that already downs guardians / shaper at a rate faster than most builds? You certainly can...but you lose the ability to get into some "shit" in maps, and survive. For instance; this league, ive survived some pretty crazy mods while popping breaches and living. Watching my ES go from capped to ~1000 several times as second.

I dont think that build will do it, but maybe?

Why don't you try it and see how it is.

PS - WTS


Lol ya been wondering if it's worth it to get more DPS. The build using Grand Spectrum relies on a flask to become stun immune while this build, doing less DPS, is just plain immune to stun. More DPS is not bad though right? Faster clears maybe?
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renroval wrote:
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JSquiggle wrote:
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renroval wrote:
How does this build compare to

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1816191

Seems like the tooltip DPS is so much higher with pretty good ES/survivability. I guess lack of stun immunity but the damage is so much higher.


It's fine, just dont expect to face tank everything. Compare it to a build that might use regen as its form of survivability. Here's the thing, do you really need to double the DPS of a build that already downs guardians / shaper at a rate faster than most builds? You certainly can...but you lose the ability to get into some "shit" in maps, and survive. For instance; this league, ive survived some pretty crazy mods while popping breaches and living. Watching my ES go from capped to ~1000 several times as second.

I dont think that build will do it, but maybe?

Why don't you try it and see how it is.

PS - WTS


Lol ya been wondering if it's worth it to get more DPS. The build using Grand Spectrum relies on a flask to become stun immune while this build, doing less DPS, is just plain immune to stun. More DPS is not bad though right? Faster clears maybe?


How much faster though? If this was pathfinder, i'd consider it. I see the benefits of doubling the damage. Honestly, throw skyforth in there and I'd say its better.
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JSquiggle wrote:
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renroval wrote:
How does this build compare to

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1816191

Seems like the tooltip DPS is so much higher with pretty good ES/survivability. I guess lack of stun immunity but the damage is so much higher.


It's fine, just dont expect to face tank everything. Compare it to a build that might use regen as its form of survivability. Here's the thing, do you really need to double the DPS of a build that already downs guardians / shaper at a rate faster than most builds? You certainly can...but you lose the ability to get into some "shit" in maps, and survive. For instance; this league, ive survived some pretty crazy mods while popping breaches and living. Watching my ES go from capped to ~1000 several times as second.

I dont think that build will do it, but maybe?

Why don't you try it and see how it is.

PS - WTS


Thanks for all the help answering questions jsquiggle!

That's a very nice triple ele foil btw!

@renroval - I might be mistaken, but that build's tooltip dps is with slower projectiles. The ones I've showed are with GMP. That build you linked has a GMP dps of 171k with flask buffs. Mine is 265k with flask buffs, and that doesn't even reflect the added damage bonus from diamond flask. My ST and GMP were also not level 21 for that screenshot. Therefore I think the crit version still does more damage than the non-crit grand spectrum version. Hope that helps!

Edit: typos
Build of the Week 14
The first Righteous Fire/Non-Shavronne's/Shavronne's HC
Shameless self-proclaimed theory-crafting extraordinaire and forum crusader
Last edited by Invalesco on Mar 8, 2017, 7:26:12 PM
Killing bosses definitely faster but clear speed probably a bit faster. I mean his slower projectiled ST is about 447k DPS. Definitely faster for bosses.
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Invalesco wrote:
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JSquiggle wrote:
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renroval wrote:
How does this build compare to

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1816191

Seems like the tooltip DPS is so much higher with pretty good ES/survivability. I guess lack of stun immunity but the damage is so much higher.


It's fine, just dont expect to face tank everything. Compare it to a build that might use regen as its form of survivability. Here's the thing, do you really need to double the DPS of a build that already downs guardians / shaper at a rate faster than most builds? You certainly can...but you lose the ability to get into some "shit" in maps, and survive. For instance; this league, ive survived some pretty crazy mods while popping breaches and living. Watching my ES go from capped to ~1000 several times as second.

I dont think that build will do it, but maybe?

Why don't you try it and see how it is.

PS - WTS


Thanks for all the help answering questions jsquiggle!

That's a very nice triple ele foil btw!

@renroval - I might be mistaken, but that build's tooltip dps is with slower projectiles. The ones I've showed are with GMP. That build you linked has a buffer GMP dps of 175k I think. Mine is 265k with falls buffs, and that doesn't even reflect the added damage bonus from diamond flask. My ST and GMP were also not level 21 for that screenshot. Therefore I think the crit version still does more damage than the non-crit grand spectrum version. Hope that helps!


Wait I thought your 265k DPS screenshot was slower projectile. I might have been mistaken then.
TFW OP ignores you
Last edited by Gopstop22 on Mar 8, 2017, 7:56:40 PM

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