[2.5] Pentagolem Hellfire - How to play PoE while watching TV(Shaper/Guardians)

Noob here, is this build still viable? Also do you guys have any tips on how to level it efficiently?

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allana wrote:

you just happened to be among the first to make the build since you did it in standard but it's for sure way better as CI. I feel for the poor souls who come here asking for advice

It's definitely not better as CI if your goal is to run through mobs. You have no way of recovering from big hits (except maybe running some vaal disciplines)

Hybrid can survive flurries of hits with bone offering and has enough EHP to deal with big hits as well.

I feel for the meta blinded souls who can't accept CI isn't ALWAYS the best choice.

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Simplesim45 wrote:

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allana wrote:

you just happened to be among the first to make the build since you did it in standard but it's for sure way better as CI. I feel for the poor souls who come here asking for advice

It's definitely not better as CI if your goal is to run through mobs. You have no way of recovering from big hits (except maybe running some vaal disciplines)

Hybrid can survive flurries of hits with bone offering and has enough EHP to deal with big hits as well.

I feel for the meta blinded souls who can't accept CI isn't ALWAYS the best choice.

But I have 11k ES and 3 blasphemy curses with 12 golem jewels in total. I am both safer than you (because eventually you'll die randomly to chaos damage - for example if you played breach you would be aware of Chayula) and I deal more damage with higher clearspeed.

You mention this is the ultimate lazy build? I have to disagree, chaos damage will gib you some times. Your build cannot do uber atziri? I killed it on the first try.

Be a hipster all you want, but there's no reason at all to play hybrid in the current game unless you want to gimp yourself for some reason

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allana wrote:

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Simplesim45 wrote:

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allana wrote:

you just happened to be among the first to make the build since you did it in standard but it's for sure way better as CI. I feel for the poor souls who come here asking for advice

It's definitely not better as CI if your goal is to run through mobs. You have no way of recovering from big hits (except maybe running some vaal disciplines)

Hybrid can survive flurries of hits with bone offering and has enough EHP to deal with big hits as well.

I feel for the meta blinded souls who can't accept CI isn't ALWAYS the best choice.

But I have 11k ES and 3 blasphemy curses with 12 golem jewels in total. I am both safer than you (because eventually you'll die randomly to chaos damage - for example if you played breach you would be aware of Chayula) and I deal more damage with higher clearspeed.

You mention this is the ultimate lazy build? I have to disagree, chaos damage will gib you some times. Your build cannot do uber atziri? I killed it on the first try.

Be a hipster all you want, but there's no reason at all to play hybrid in the current game unless you want to gimp yourself for some reason

And I have 11k EHP. A bit less if I use shavs and chaos becomes a non issue.

3 curses is a sweet advantage and my tree could definitely use some work. You don't have higher clear speed. Your increased damage is from the extra curse which isn't an argument for CI vs Hybrid. Uber is super easy as an elementalist if that's what you want to do.

It's not about being a hipster. It's about showing the community there's more to the game than going CI all the fucking time.

the hard part about uber atziri as an elementalist would be the trio which deals mainly physical damage as far as I know, i.e it will kill your golems still

Prolly asked before, but: Why no Elementalist? Would give us a sixth Golem and make them immune to reflect, plus we spread burn. Versus some flat "increased" damage and longer Offerings.

edit: ofc not spreading IF we use Elemental Focus~ talking about Empower setup

Hey i've been using your guide as a framework for my build. Been leveling upto level 95 and done all 4 guardians with my setup.
A few things i noticed while playing the build is the Spell totem/Arc setup doesn't ever proc EE, same way the golems don't proc EE. I swapped over to using a single link orb of storms just to proc it, Using Anger in any kind of LL setup will mess with the EE also since it adds flat Spell damage to all spells, it would have to be in a generosity setup.
I grabbed ZO and a couple of regen nodes on scion + vitality, mainly my preference since it negates Degen ground effects and just makes it more lazy to play.

But the main reason i'm posting is i'm unsure on whether a level 4 empower Vs a Fire pen Gem, i've yet to get a level 4 myself to dps test, any tests i've tried to do are hard to compare due to the random nature of minion targeting and bosses moving a lot.
The info in This https://youtu.be/mj_sa1mVGCQ Video makes me think pen (+the 10% fire from quality) could be better.
Either way amazing build guide, had a ton of fun over way too much playtime i've put into it already.

I am not sure, if LL works for your golems.. and if so, why not buff them with anger/wrath and use vitality?

Curious

Going low life for the pain Attunement node isn't my aim, I'm using it so i can reserve more auras and buff my golems more, Not particularly through the aura itself but through commander of darkenss (I'm prettysure it applies to golems).
The ability to run double blasphemy and clarity on my mana pool and still have enough mana left to recast a 305 mana cost Flame golem, Running a lvl20 discipline with +2 for an extra 1.4k es on top of that i gain roughly another 1.4k es from Presence of chayula.
With my current gear (which i'm pretty happy with) i hit 9.6k Es total wearing a shav's and a prism guardian.

As for running Anger/Hatred/Wrath, as i've explained in my post before Anger would mess with the EE and i haven't worked out a way to fit in an Anger and generosity setup. Hatred wouldn't do anything, And Wrath i have no idea how the interaction would work, since the golem's damage is 100% fire, whether it would add the flat lightning ontop of the damage or convert it to fire, again something to ask a mechanics thread. Even still damage isn't my issue for normal mapping, i just about oneshot most normal mobs without EE procced.

Ofcourse i'm open to suggestions on how to make a ll setup better, i don't think it's objectively better in solo play compared to the guide's hybrid route, not to mention the cost of some of the ll gear.

Hi all,

so after lots of tries (gems, stuff etc..), i present you my CI Occultist 4 fire Golems (4 it's sufficient)

My stuff :



I have chosen this ring and it resolved my pb => the stun


Why Occultist =>
i) I have enough ES for End Game map (10 300 atm with bad chest/gloves/helmet)
ii) Malediction => 2nd CUrse (so no need spend points for whispers of doom ^^)
iii) Vile Bastion => Cannot Be Stunned while on Full Energy Shield (help too)

I have chosen Necromantic Aegis +
I clean all map and use minion speed support and for bosses i change for minion damage support.

Atm All T10 to 15 maps + bosses are done , the Guardians too but Minautor is the hardest.

I havent tried try Shaper yet.

I tried high lvl breaches with 5 golems and my 4 golems build and it 's easier with necromatic aegis.

I will try improve my stuff : chest and helmet