[2.5] Pentagolem Hellfire - How to play PoE while watching TV(Shaper/Guardians)

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Nickums wrote:

Hey there recently started playing this build and got two clayshaper rock breakers. Has been great but for some reason it keeps randomly casting earth golems over riding my flame golems. Is this normal?

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KinGGaiA wrote:

i switched between CI and hybrid a couple of times. the problem with CI is that you dont have any self sustain as a necromancer. the only thing that can keep u alive, as in: regain HP, are pots + offering. so yea, as stated above, u get a higher EHP pool (blessing of chayula + HP on gear with with skin of loyal gives actually insane ES). im currenty running around with 3k hp + 8200 ES. the HP seems low (due to the amulet mainly) but with maxed chaos resi i can do chayula breaches mora than fine. with a min maxed gear u can get up to ~4,5k hp which is more than enough (on top of 9k+ ES)

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primaeva wrote:

Hi, trying out this build, switching over from classic Flame Sent.

The damage seems seriously lacking compared to even 5L sents (I used Item Quant 20/20).

This has to do with Magma Orb constantly being on cooldown - that flamethrowing thing requires mid- to short- range and does pitiful damage.

Would I be right then in saying that Prim Harmony forms the core of the build? The closer we get to full Magma Orb, the more powerful the build.

Stats that fall off are thus any cast speed modifiers (as damage is gated by CD of Magma Orb). Victario's offhand takes a huge hit.

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Secondly, I can't see any difference at all with Primordial Might or without. That precious slot could go to Prim Harmony I guess. I shudder to think why Might is in a bubble of 6-8ex while the rest trade for 15-30c - I hope it's not due to the 'improved' AI.

Maybe in playstyles where you walk around it could make a potential difference, but I have always kept a COH-Ball Lightning-DualCurse setup even for reg mobs - to apply EE as well, for up to 194% * 140+%MORE modifier (Proj weakness). The increase is too big to ignore especially on bosses.

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Simplesim45 wrote:

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primaeva wrote:

Hi, trying out this build, switching over from classic Flame Sent.

The damage seems seriously lacking compared to even 5L sents (I used Item Quant 20/20).

This has to do with Magma Orb constantly being on cooldown - that flamethrowing thing requires mid- to short- range and does pitiful damage.

Would I be right then in saying that Prim Harmony forms the core of the build? The closer we get to full Magma Orb, the more powerful the build.

Stats that fall off are thus any cast speed modifiers (as damage is gated by CD of Magma Orb). Victario's offhand takes a huge hit.

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Secondly, I can't see any difference at all with Primordial Might or without. That precious slot could go to Prim Harmony I guess. I shudder to think why Might is in a bubble of 6-8ex while the rest trade for 15-30c - I hope it's not due to the 'improved' AI.

Maybe in playstyles where you walk around it could make a potential difference, but I have always kept a COH-Ball Lightning-DualCurse setup even for reg mobs - to apply EE as well, for up to 194% * 140+%MORE modifier (Proj weakness). The increase is too big to ignore especially on bosses.

If you're guiding your golems, the improved AI doesn't make as big of a difference. With this build, you just run and it makes a huge difference.

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primaeva wrote:

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Simplesim45 wrote:

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primaeva wrote:

Hi, trying out this build, switching over from classic Flame Sent.

The damage seems seriously lacking compared to even 5L sents (I used Item Quant 20/20).

This has to do with Magma Orb constantly being on cooldown - that flamethrowing thing requires mid- to short- range and does pitiful damage.

Would I be right then in saying that Prim Harmony forms the core of the build? The closer we get to full Magma Orb, the more powerful the build.

Stats that fall off are thus any cast speed modifiers (as damage is gated by CD of Magma Orb). Victario's offhand takes a huge hit.

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Secondly, I can't see any difference at all with Primordial Might or without. That precious slot could go to Prim Harmony I guess. I shudder to think why Might is in a bubble of 6-8ex while the rest trade for 15-30c - I hope it's not due to the 'improved' AI.

Maybe in playstyles where you walk around it could make a potential difference, but I have always kept a COH-Ball Lightning-DualCurse setup even for reg mobs - to apply EE as well, for up to 194% * 140+%MORE modifier (Proj weakness). The increase is too big to ignore especially on bosses.

If you're guiding your golems, the improved AI doesn't make as big of a difference. With this build, you just run and it makes a huge difference.

Thanks for the speedy reply! :D

Have you reached a stage where Harmonies stacked means Magma Orb is almost permanently up?

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MistrPow wrote:

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KinGGaiA wrote:

i switched between CI and hybrid a couple of times. the problem with CI is that you dont have any self sustain as a necromancer. the only thing that can keep u alive, as in: regain HP, are pots + offering. so yea, as stated above, u get a higher EHP pool (blessing of chayula + HP on gear with with skin of loyal gives actually insane ES). im currenty running around with 3k hp + 8200 ES. the HP seems low (due to the amulet mainly) but with maxed chaos resi i can do chayula breaches mora than fine. with a min maxed gear u can get up to ~4,5k hp which is more than enough (on top of 9k+ ES)

Is skin of the loyal better than a 6L hybrid chest?