[2.5] Pentagolem Hellfire - How to play PoE while watching TV(Shaper/Guardians)

How far can i go without anima? I will get it later, ofcourse, i have 20% quality gems setup, and everything else, but need like 3 ex for Anima, really tired of my old build, wanna play something new.

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romanaut1212 wrote:

Hi, i have played golems and wanna do it again but seems like Empower gem is useless, i would put Faster Projectile on it 2 of 3 spells are projectile, its looks like nice boost for golems.
Empower give us golem level but look at this damage boost : 1% damage boost from +1chest and 4lvl empower



LVL G.Size HP Damage
20 10% 68% 20%
21 10% 70% 20%
22 11% 72% 20%
23 11% 74% 21%
24 12% 76% 21%
25 12% 78% 21%
26 13% 80% 21%

The 20-21% listed there is the bonus damage the golems grant you. It is a totally useless stat for this build. The damage they gain themselves each level is really, really high because we scale it with so many sources (jewels, passives, support gems).

Sadly I haven't found the actual damage stats of the golem anywhere. Maybe someone knows where it is?

EDIT: Well, the wikia actually has a list I just realized, but I am not 100% sure about this. But following that list our Flame Golems would have a base damage of 684–1710 at gem level 21 which is the highest you can get without +1 chest and Empower. Now, I have a +1 chest and a level 3 Empower meaning I would actually have a level 25 Flame Golem gem. That golem has a base damage of 1015–2537.

Include all the scaling I mentioned before and the difference between 21 and 25 is easily double damage. Even more when you consider that many of our support gems and jewels also scale their cast speed (and they actually use spell echo too of course), spell damage and cooldown of the three flame golem skills. And I am very sure those skills scale off the base damage the golems do ;)

Here is the list: http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Summon_Flame_Golem#Monster_stats

It would be nice if OP or someone else could confirm this is actually how to read that list :D

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Sunw1sh wrote:

How far can i go without anima? I will get it later, ofcourse, i have 20% quality gems setup, and everything else, but need like 3 ex for Anima, really tired of my old build, wanna play something new.

Well, without it you have 3 instead of 5 golems. If you have everything else you should be fine even for high tier maps. I just run through T15 maps without problems, so I would guess your clear speed would be slower, but still very possible to do T15.

In what order should I pick my ascendancies?

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Barraccuda wrote:

In what order should I pick my ascendancies?

I went with this:

Commander of Darkness (30% golem damage and 15% golem attack/cast speed + 20% all res for us, took this first because it makes it easier to gear as we only need to be capped on res with those 20% all res)

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Mistress of Sacrifice (almost max block/spell block for 6 seconds everytime CWDT+Bone Offering gets procced

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Spirit Eater (30% golem damage, rest isnt really useful

And now comes where I'm still undecided. Because Beacon of corruption is very useless for us. Only useful thing for me would be the little bit of chaos res. So I think I will spent my last 2 ascendancy points on the two small nodes that each give 15% damage and chaos res/life.

your guide says 8 jewels, but i only see 7 jewel slots?

edit: nvm saw 8 im blind

Any info on flasks?

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Fhark wrote:

anyone running vaal haste? ive been trying it with generosity seems like a decent buff to golems particularly if u dont have the inc minion ms jewellery.

Ofcourse i bet every1 is running vaal haste but i wouldnt use it with generosity just bcoz of the movement speed it provides to us.

QoL tip

And also im using convocation in unset ring bcoz i found it best for positioning golems in closed maps also convocation helps with killing proximity shield rares



Im testing animate Guardian in hammer instead of immortal call cwdt
Links guardian-life-ress
Items(im at work so i dont remember the names) unique gloves with max hp, leer cast head, Staff for curses, chest(belly would be Nice but its expensive as ur Guardian can die) so i used dat 2k armour prophecy chest and kaoms root boots.

Using animate Guardian forces us to use 1 life flask for minions. So far my golem died once (just bcoz i forget to use minion flask) so im still testing it and ill let you guys know if its worth using.

For chest i need to test the one which gives consecr ground on block (bone offering) its zahendus something i dont remember its name.

So far i can answer one question:
yes it gives noticable dmg boost to our golems

Cheers

Sorry if this was asked already, but it wouldn't hurt to stack more than 5 harmonies, right?

And imo for ascendancy order, I'm planning to go from left to right as it appears on the tree guide.

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Ofcourse i bet every1 is running vaal haste but i wouldnt use it with generosity just bcoz of the movement speed it provides to us.

All i really cared about is how fast the golems move since i move way faster then them particularly with a quicksilver. With really good gear i would be interested to try this build with umbilicus immortalis and see how fast i could clear maps. Could potentially become a good lazy magic find build.

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Fhark wrote:

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Ofcourse i bet every1 is running vaal haste but i wouldnt use it with generosity just bcoz of the movement speed it provides to us.

All i really cared about is how fast the golems move since i move way faster then them particularly with a quicksilver. With really good gear i would be interested to try this build with umbilicus immortalis and see how fast i could clear maps. Could potentially become a good lazy magic find build.

If you are faster then ur golems and you ll move 1 screeny away from them they will tp to you. Currently im just running through t10 maps only stopping for like 1 sec if there is a rare golem or something with huge hp pool, for trash you just run, thats why its better if you dont use generosity with vaal haste. Btw, its rly Nice if you have vaal discipline also, helps alot with hard bossess:)

Remember, there is never too much movement speed :)


And if we are talking about making mf golems, i think that strone golems would be the best just bcoz with 5 taunting beasts you can go without focusing on survi. But i didnt tested them yet.