[2.6] cyclone based Mjolner

you mention here "NOTE: The rare ring is very important. It must provide all ress, stats, str or dex or both (this way you'll save points on passive tree), and cold dmg to attacks for elemental equilibrium chain. If you cannot find/afford this kind of ring you can use Herald of Ice as your additional aura. Build has enough aura nodes to support that."

that instead of running an added cold ring HOI is another option? does this not effect the EE chain as it will add cold dmg to your ARC & Discharge...

Please let me know asap trying to optimise my build

Rico,

Any chance your life based Mjolner is still viable? I know it got nerfed hard, but I'm only interested in mapping. If I need a Uber/Shaper/T16 boss killer I can use a different character. Asking about the life based because I finally got a Kingsguard and enough currency for Voll's. Or is LL the only way Mjolner is viable now? Sucks that now that I can finally do it Mjolner got nerfed.

Edit: Nevermind. Just saw your post on next to last page of Life done right thread about Inquisitor version. Will give it a try. Thanks!

Cool build. Too bad I've spent all my Mjolners for chisel recipe.

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Spídah wrote:

you mention here "NOTE: The rare ring is very important. It must provide all ress, stats, str or dex or both (this way you'll save points on passive tree), and cold dmg to attacks for elemental equilibrium chain. If you cannot find/afford this kind of ring you can use Herald of Ice as your additional aura. Build has enough aura nodes to support that."

that instead of running an added cold ring HOI is another option? does this not effect the EE chain as it will add cold dmg to your ARC & Discharge...

Please let me know asap trying to optimise my build

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stoudtlr wrote:

Rico,

Any chance your life based Mjolner is still viable? I know it got nerfed hard, but I'm only interested in mapping. If I need a Uber/Shaper/T16 boss killer I can use a different character. Asking about the life based because I finally got a Kingsguard and enough currency for Voll's. Or is LL the only way Mjolner is viable now? Sucks that now that I can finally do it Mjolner got nerfed.

Edit: Nevermind. Just saw your post on next to last page of Life done right thread about Inquisitor version. Will give it a try. Thanks!

First of all sorry for late anserw. As far as first question goes:

HoI wont affect EE chain. I (and other guys) was testing this regarding my 2.3 CI CoC Discharge. HoI add cold dmg to spells yes but the "hit" from cyclone is a trigger. Basically hit-discharge-hit-arc. Everytime you hit it sets -50% light -50% fire +25% cold. Spell trigger offsets that yes, but before next spell trigger your cyclone hit gets it set back right.


Now as far as life Mjolner versions goes in 2.5 some people use still berserker but reports that it is slow vs bosses (no suprise here). Just before 2.5 nerf hit I've made life Inquisitor version that performed extremely well in 2.4 (better than I expected) and IMO was the strongest Mjolner out there (outside of low life Pathfinder). I've tried Inquisitor just after 2.5 went live (movies on how it performs are on my yt channel) and found it to be viable in 2.5. So If I wanted to do life Mjolner in 2.5 despite all the nerfs than I would go with Crit Inquisitor.

However non of Mjolner builds is currently a T1 build, nor even T2. They're only enough to do mapping, to "survive" untill GGG gets it right again.

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EmptedBoss wrote:

Cool build. Too bad I've spent all my Mjolners for chisel recipe.

Yeah.

Hey Rico,
cool build. Since I only play temp HC and can't really afford Shavs or Voll's, do you think this would work for a budget CI version? Just to have some fun with.

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAYCAAVCDXwRDxFQFVA0ChmKGo8bJR0U-tInqSj6KjgsnDW5Ow09X0GWRXxGcUlRSbFLrkyzUDBSU1fJXGtsC19qX7DrFG0Zb55-WX_GgwmESITFjDaOZI9Gj_qTJ5eVl5eX9Jitm6GbtaEvpwinK6yYrrO0DLQ4tvq5k76KwwnDOsNtykrK09Af0NDQ9dfPUzXZW9rd214Wvw-r5RnpAiSL6rrr9cHF74jv6_DV8h2Q1vbaLKb3pvfXN2b5N_sJ-_UJIEyDcNR0gYCzkUejo_mkIuro1s3qUEIXL2TnVdaApOwYcLvZEy9vLL8V14auVmMi9A==

Can run PoL/PoF/Disc/Blasphemy curse without any enlightens.
Voidbringer or Repentance gloves (both nearly free).
Using the dex to str conversion jewel near Vaal Pact.

Seems tanky enough, questionable damage though. Also I'm unsure if I can get to 3.7 APS without haste? maybe take Krait as reward?

Thx mate!

Quick Update: Rolled the char as I wrote in BHC, lvl71 now and having a ton of fun :)
The entire thing cost around 20c so far, getting 135mil xp on dried lake which is pretty good IMO. Of course, most of my other (meta) chars are stronger, but for this price, Mjölner is hard to beat. Here's my gear, hoping to get a Voll's Devotion at some point.



Anyway, thanks for the inspiration Rico!

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RicoKGB wrote:

So doing quick math: Lets take 15k Discharge DPU as average and than multiply by 2 times (double the tooltip due to the 98% elemental resistances reduction) and than x4 (max allowed Discharges per second) and we have 120k DPS to 0% resistance target with 4/4 charges.

Hi,

You did your calculation with http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Resistance, right ?
With (1 + 0.98) x 15K = nearly 30K ?

WRONG.
You don't penetrate any res so res = 0, we then have : (1 + 0) x 15K = 15K

You're welcome. (The tooltip is in fact already against 0% res cause it doesn't take into account any particular monster's res)
Nice build tho, damage potential isn't 120k dps but half that.

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Tekry wrote:

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RicoKGB wrote:

So doing quick math: Lets take 15k Discharge DPU as average and than multiply by 2 times (double the tooltip due to the 98% elemental resistances reduction) and than x4 (max allowed Discharges per second) and we have 120k DPS to 0% resistance target with 4/4 charges.

Hi,

You did your calculation with http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Resistance, right ?
With (1 + 0.98) x 15K = nearly 30K ?

WRONG.
You don't penetrate any res so res = 0, we then have : (1 + 0) x 15K = 15K

You're welcome. (The tooltip is in fact already against 0% res cause it doesn't take into account any particular monster's res)
Nice build tho, damage potential isn't 120k dps but half that.

From the same wiki post you linked...

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Both reduction (as from curses), and penetration (as from Penetration gems), can reduce a target's resistance below 0%. There is no minimum resistance floor.

Oh wow, never saw that lane, that changes everything !
I guess we learn everyday with this game.

Thanks for the output Rico.

is there any other attack a mjoelner could work fine with?
i cant c cyclone anymore ...