Content Update 2.5.0 Patch Notes

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Bex_GGG wrote:

[li]The Minion and Totem Elemental Resistance support gem now has a multiplicative minion and totem elemental damage stat on it, scaling from 10% at level 1 to 19% more elemental damage at gem level 20.[/li]

Might as well just rename the gem to Minion and Totem Elemental Mastery or something.
well, no melee buffs is very sad
no bow skills buff is also very sad.. for how long split arrow tornado shot and many other bow builds will be dead?

and some good and cool spells being nerfed... and none buff as usual. Nothing new to play just less skills than we already had... thats very very bad.
My end, it justifies my means,
All I ever do is delay,
My every attempt to evade,
The end of the road
And my end....
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mustash wrote:
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Fruz wrote:
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mustash wrote:
The ONLY viable builds. You hear that guys? ALLLL of the viable builds are now dead. We might as well pack it in and quit now because EVERY SINGLE VIABLE BUILD is dead. Screw looking at the new unique items. There isn't going to be anything that is viable. You mean to tell me that I have to play a game that challenges me!? NO.

tldr; if I cannot cheese the game, I rather quit !!!


Nice mentality ....


I'm assuming you are taking me out of context. That is the raging mentality on this forum for balancing their favorite build.

Dunno how I missed the saracasm of your first post actually.
I guess I didn't read the last sentence actually, my bad.
SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading.
Last edited by Fruz#6137 on Nov 29, 2016, 11:43:29 PM
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KoHElfs wrote:
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southsidepopper wrote:
They nerf super OP meta builds for a reason y'all. Are we going to have to go through this same crybaby bullshit every major patch notes? There is a reason why it is called "SKILL BALANCE" If some skills/items/stats are way outperforming others, it is in the games best interest to nerf them instead of just buffing everything else to match it. It keeps the game fresh and otherwise you would have something beyond power 'creep'.


I do see your point and I completely agree that buffing everything to BV level of power is not the answer, so of couse nerf the OP stuff... However, I do think that they should buff things that are underwhelming at the moment (and GAWD there are many of those) so that more builds and skills become viable... There are many builds that can kill Shaper with enough skill, but there are many skills that can't be optimized to beat the Shaper no matter how skilled you are. It's ok for some builds to be unable to kill Shaper if they excell in something else, but skills that are crappy for map clearing, boss killing, farming, AoE and single target sounds like balance failures to me. BALANCE is about nerfing overpowered stuff and buffing underpowered stuff.


I agree, but how do you know that the things that are considered severely underpowered don't have some hipster way of making them very viable and fun? And since GGG knows all they may be keeping some of those things to themselves and not buffing some items to lure people into it.
GitGud, GitNerfed, Repeat.
Wow, so many nerfs and no buff for life builds. Sad day :/
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~ Yes i'm the Darkrox from Runes of Magic - World's #1 Guild Pravum 2009 - 2011 ~
Must Scion remain in the dumpster tier another league?
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mustash wrote:
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Chalace wrote:
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southsidepopper wrote:


You should try a self found no youtube guide build next league. You may be surprised what you find in this game.......

55 NEW UNIQUE ITEMS! CHANNELED SKILLS! fuck that one build ziggyd did last league got nerfed. I FUCKING QUIT!


People laugh at me when i tell them i play self-found!


Yea man, you must be terrible at this game. You play 100% solo and don't trade? God...

Of course I'm joking. I have the most respect in the world for that because there is no way I would want to.


I do group with friends occasionally, if that counts~
And i did cheat at the end of essence and bought a cospris to try it out, and some Vaal orbs; once my challenges were done.

What can i say, I'm not a saint.

But for me the fun comes from finding that upgrade, i get no satisfaction from searching poe.trade and paying a few chaos for items.



I understand your point, what I'm trying to say is that by keep nerfing them, there will be one point where similar items wouldn't be that powerful, which create pathway for "Cast Fire skill on Ignite" or whatever to be more balanced. More creativity?

GGG did fuck up, but this is an acceptable way to improve the situation.
My builds:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1809378 - Lazor Inqusitor
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1781498 - Burning Arrow Raider
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1800999 - Perfect Formless Inferno Slayer
What baffles me the most, is the fact people clearly don't seem to understand the magnitude involved in projects like this. You are never, ever, going to be in a position where things are totally balanced. There will always be a few builds that are stronger, faster, safer etc.

GGG's job is to make sure those stronger builds are not so strong that they trivialize the content, that is all.
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mustash wrote:
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Chalace wrote:
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southsidepopper wrote:


You should try a self found no youtube guide build next league. You may be surprised what you find in this game.......

55 NEW UNIQUE ITEMS! CHANNELED SKILLS! fuck that one build ziggyd did last league got nerfed. I FUCKING QUIT!


People laugh at me when i tell them i play self-found!


Yea man, you must be terrible at this game. You play 100% solo and don't trade? God...

Of course I'm joking. I have the most respect in the world for that because there is no way I would want to.


Well I am a virtual hoarder and have like 200 premium stash tabs in standard. Which makes the solo self finding in new leagues much easier. Which is one of my biggest qualms with this game, trading being gated behind that. I do a ton of trading in standard, and very little in new leagues. Only buy what I feel my build is lacking from the currency I've accumulated if I think it's cheaper than crafting it. That's my version of solo self found. Also, my current computer doesn't really let me do anything but 'solo'
GitGud, GitNerfed, Repeat.

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