[2.4] Lioneye's watch LLD Dual Wield Tempestous Steel

My gear cost me about 50c since the only online people selling elreon jewelry were pricing it a bit higher. Would've cost about 30c if I bought the gear mid-league.
1389 Life, 40 dodge, 30 spell dodge, 16 block.

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Bear Trap - Multiple Traps - Added Fire

Hatred - Arctic Armour - Flicker Strike

Whirling Blades - Leap Slam - Faster Attacks - Stun (Not necessary, just had empty socket)

Lacerate - Melee Physical Damage - Weapon Elemental Damage - Physical to Lightning

Riposte - Melee Physical Damage - Weapon Elemental Damage - Physical to Lightning

Vengeance - Melee Physical Damage - Weapon Elemental Damage - Physical to Lightning





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Last bumped on Nov 27, 2016, 8:03:02 AM
I must say, that with these LLD builds cropping up and PT doing some good work stoking interest in LLD, I just may come back to it next temp league XD.

Nice build A222!
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Interesting choice to go ranger. I will probably try a templar version next league but with another skill.
guys could you compare tempestous with a gg vagan weapon? preferably mathematically.
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What gg vagan weapon is there to compare to?

Beating those dualwielded tempestuous steels won't be easy, 60% added elemental damage + 30% all elemental penetration, so juicy.

It's also quite a complex calculation, the steels benefit equally from all sources of added elemental damage, while a rare vagan will be stuck using 1 type of elemental penetration.





ok could you tell me lvl 28 max rolled vagan weapon dps? i dont know. can be dagger / sword. preferably both.
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Last edited by Rupenus#5905 on Nov 23, 2016, 6:27:08 PM


I guess the real benefit of these weapons is that you can use culling strike ungil's in offhand.
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lapiz wrote:


I guess the real benefit of these weapons is that you can use culling strike ungil's in offhand.


But couldn't you just corrupt Tempestuous Steels for Culling Strike?
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mimivirus wrote:
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lapiz wrote:


I guess the real benefit of these weapons is that you can use culling strike ungil's in offhand.


But couldn't you just corrupt Tempestuous Steels for Culling Strike?


Yeah..... -.-

Culling strike is not why you want ungil's though. I only typed it because it is the bis setup kinda.
Another layer of complexity: direct comparison between vagan and tempestuous is pretty hard since they require different setups imo :p

As a simplification, using the setup of the OP (gear+links), ignoring crits, ignoring the tree, ignoring the opponents armour, ignoring the equal multipliers (like pdps support, attack speed from gear/tree, ...) gives:

A) = tempestuous
B) = vagan dagger

Flat physical damage before multipliers:
A) 29-60 + 6-9 + 4-10 + 3-8 + 5-15 + 6-9 = 53-111 = 82 => ... *0.5 = 41 (phys to lightning)
B) 50-129 + 6-9 + 4-10 + 3-8 + 5-15 + 6-9 = 74-180 = 127 => ...*0.5 = 63.5

Attack speed before multipliers:
A) 1.35
B) 1.67

Added fire damage:
A) 30% vs 45% resists
B) 0% vs 75% resists

Added cold damage:
A) 26% vs 45% resists
B) 26% vs 75% resists

Added lightning damage:
A) 50% + 12% + 30% = 92% vs 45% resists
B) 50% + 12% = 62% vs 75% resists

Adding it all together:
A) 41.0 * 1.35 + 82 * 1.35 * 1.42 * (0.3+0.26+0.92) * 0.55 = 55.35 pdps + 127.96 edps = 183.31 dps
B) 63.5 * 1.67 + 127 * 1.67 * 1.42 * (0+0.26+0.62) * 0.25 = 106.05 pdps + 66.26 edps = 172.31 dps


So with the tempestuous steel setup, the tempestuous steels do a tiny bit more damage than a gg vagan weapon. The tempestuous setup can be scaled a lot further with better rolled gear, a dedicated vagan dagger/sword build will probably look completely different and do relatively better with that build. All in all it seems pretty balanced to me. The only thing broken here is blade flurry.

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