Scorching Ray Skill Gem Mechanics

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Marxone wrote:

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Tomikxx wrote:

Burning double dips in elemental damage, is this skill the case? maybe thats why everyone buying

like crazy?

will this work?

Double dip won't be the case. There won't be initial hit as it is for Flameblast of Fireball ignite builds.

Ele Focus will work.

This skill will be most likely a candidate for 3L or 4L with something like

Elemental Focus + Faster Casting + Controled Destruction

I am skeptical with any use of Spell Echo, Rapid Decay (guess no duration, unless it will get the channeling support), no additive dmg gems, no knockback, no fire pen, no aoe, no projectile. From support gems view, unless there will be a new class of support gems, it will be very limited.

yea you forgot and yes they said it will have duration tag so rapid decay would work and what about empower 4, or as someone mentioned maybe even increased duration, so you will make worth using 6L I believe

best i can think of now for 6L: Scorching Ray + Elemental Focus + Faster Casting + Controled Destruction + Rapid Decay + Empower lvl 4

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Tomikxx wrote:

Burning double dips in elemental damage, is this skill the case? maybe thats why everyone buying

like crazy?

will this work?

GS tree maybe like this:
poeurl.com/PEZ
poeurl.com/PEX
9 sockets = 405% elemental dmg
at lvl 100 u could get +2 sockets for 11 = 605% elemental dmg

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guggelhupf wrote:

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Tomikxx wrote:

Burning double dips in elemental damage, is this skill the case? maybe thats why everyone buying

like crazy?

will this work?

GS tree maybe like this:
poeurl.com/PEZ
poeurl.com/PEX
9 sockets = 405% elemental dmg
at lvl 100 u could get +2 sockets for 11 = 605% elemental dmg

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but simple and important question, will be able to sustain mana cost without any max mana/ mana regen pasives? we will see

abit changed your tree, lvl 89 with 11 sockets http://poeplanner.com/AAMAAURBQU1CQWdjQWRnUUhCTE1MWVEwZkVTMFVJQmhXSE53Znh5Y3ZLM2dzbkRMUk5aSTZXRHJZT3VFOEtEd3RQZnhCaDBWSFJaMUt5RXl6VGVOUVIxTlNWY1pZWTE4X1psUm5tMmgwYVBKdXFtODdlQTE3dzN5RGdwdURYNFBNZzl1RXhZVjdpcS1NejQ4YWtCR1FWWm83bXVDYnRaeS1vUy1pQUs0LXIyeTE4cmMtdm9yQUdzQm14cTdHMk5BZjFhYll2ZHBpNUZIcjd1dzQ3VHp2RHVfcjhCX3lSZlpJLWVqLUN2NlBnc2NkdmpPSEEtN2hjNFAzSHdJYU9EOG5LazE5VzZ4SFVVektTbC13YjU2RENiR1FMYWktZ0VaeHRBekswNlpYTFlzQTdpenBoclA0WDFfUUlaRHFFS2R0NE5qRGFIMzcAEEFBQUNBQWZRQVFIMEFRQUEAAA==

im just afraid that it will be viable only with spell totems vs bosses because standing still means death, so it means lower dmg (lower casting and one gem slot wasted)

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Tomikxx wrote:

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guggelhupf wrote:

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Tomikxx wrote:

Burning double dips in elemental damage, is this skill the case? maybe thats why everyone buying

like crazy?

will this work?

GS tree maybe like this:
poeurl.com/PEZ
poeurl.com/PEX
9 sockets = 405% elemental dmg
at lvl 100 u could get +2 sockets for 11 = 605% elemental dmg

¨
but simple and important question, will be able to sustain mana cost without any max mana/ mana regen pasives? we will see

abit changed your tree, lvl 89 with 11 sockets http://poeplanner.com/AAMAAURBQU1CQWdjQWRnUUhCTE1MWVEwZkVTMFVJQmhXSE53Znh5Y3ZLM2dzbkRMUk5aSTZXRHJZT3VFOEtEd3RQZnhCaDBWSFJaMUt5RXl6VGVOUVIxTlNWY1pZWTE4X1psUm5tMmgwYVBKdXFtODdlQTE3dzN5RGdwdURYNFBNZzl1RXhZVjdpcS1NejQ4YWtCR1FWWm83bXVDYnRaeS1vUy1pQUs0LXIyeTE4cmMtdm9yQUdzQm14cTdHMk5BZjFhYll2ZHBpNUZIcjd1dzQ3VHp2RHVfcjhCX3lSZlpJLWVqLUN2NlBnc2NkdmpPSEEtN2hjNFAzSHdJYU9EOG5LazE5VzZ4SFVVektTbC13YjU2RENiR1FMYWktZ0VaeHRBekswNlpYTFlzQTdpenBoclA0WDFfUUlaRHFFS2R0NE5qRGFIMzcAEEFBQUNBQWZRQVFIMEFRQUEAAA==

im just afraid that it will be viable only with spell totems vs bosses because standing still means death, so it means lower dmg (lower casting and one gem slot wasted)

mana stats

ur tree:
+117 to maximum Mana From Intelligence
80% increased Mana Regeneration Rate

my tree:
+131.5 to maximum Mana From Intelligence
+20 to maximum Mana
145% increased Mana Regeneration Rate
33% increased maximum Mana


sure ur tree has 2 more sockets at lvl 89 wich is a lot of dmg

and yeah, i think the main problem with this spell is, that u cant leech

Nice! However, does leech work at all with it?

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Erak wrote:

Nice! However, does leech work at all with it?

i totally forgot its burning like with Rightenous fire so you cant leech with it. :(

or caustic arrow, you cant leech from damage over time right? all we can hope that it will have bonus like essence drain...

but it will never be as good as leech...

here is another GS tree, 9 sockets 101% reduced mana costs = 0 mana costs (or do we need "less mana cost" for it ?)

http://poeplanner.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

I'm still really really hoping that this works with Spell Echo. However, worst case scenario is, one would use jewel sockets for cast speed jewels.

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best i can think of now for 6L: Scorching Ray + Elemental Focus + Faster Casting + Controlled Destruction + Rapid Decay + Empower lvl 4

Still this is probably the best case scenario, though for those playing Chieftain they might want the Ignite for free endurance charge generation so subbing Elemental Focus with Increased Burning might be a thing.

Though I am wondering; since the entire damage of this skill is burning. Dose Increased Burning act like a "MORE" modifier on this skill? Would that make it better than CD or EF?

Still wondering what the Increased Duration & Less Duration supports do to it. Range maybe?

Scorching Ray + Elemental Focus + Faster Casting + Controled Destruction + Rapid Decay + Empower lvl 4 still propably best best what you can do, if rapid decay wont work, then inc. burning dmg gem

There are only 2 builds i can see this working really well in. The first is stacking on burn dmg with the Emberwake and Taiming rings. The secnd is using it as a support skill with a totem since the skill itself reduces the enemies fire res. Just roll AoF and use something like Ice Storm to get some insane boss clear speed. :d
Every other build will probably be rather average unless Spell Echo and Faster Cast both work on proc speed to reduce fire res because i am almost certain the base dmg will be low for something with a passive as strong as that. Like everyone else said though, channel skills no longer use Spell Echo so that is out of the question. This basically means we only have 2 options A. Build loads of ele dmg for the burn and B. Use it as a support skill either as a guardian to help increase the dps of fire dmg players on again or totems to support your own dmg.