[3.8] What a Shocking Tri-Element Trapper! [Fire/Ice Trap build][UberAtziri/Shaper Video]

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dhuber666 wrote:

Hi,

how do you manage to get high crit chance with that build? I saw that you barely picked up Crit Nodes in the tree. And I think just the crit chance from Amu and Dagger + 5 Power Charges are too less CC am I right?

Did I miss something?

How do you think glove enchant "curse elemental weaknes on hit" will work with this build? (when you vaal gloves and you are really lucky) I think pretty damn well. It adds a good curse for free and it also triggers the curse before the trap detonates.

Also when is a rare dagger better then divinarius? When it has about the same crit chance and flat added lightning damage to spells? Same crit + Spell and flat added Lightning Damage? Would flat added cold damage to spells also work? Attack speed on dagger would be nice for whirling blades right?

Thank you for the guide I really love this build!

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Hm, that is a good question, actually. It would make Blast Cascade a lot more effective, true, though I must wonder if it will turn Jaws of Agony obsolete then. The one upside it will have is Power Charges outside of combat and more Skillpoints usable for other stuff whereas Blast Cascade would give Power Charges quickly in combat while allowing to carry a shield with a lot more ES etc. to outbalance the lost Skillpoints.

Honestly, I'd probably say that it should, though mostly due to the fact that Jaws of Agony is more effective on a Physical Trapper due to the added physical damage and, well, it being kinda crap past the extra Power Charge effect. Elemental Trappers have it a bit rough with that thing, despite it being pretty darn awesome, still.

My main stinger, however, would be Elemental Equilibrium. If I would like anything changed on this build, it would be that EE would not trigger for two Elements at the same time, as in giving 25% extra resistance to an enemy even if you only have like 400 Lightning Damage compared to your 200000 Fire Damage on an attack.

I'd say to only add the 25% resistance to the highest Element that hit. Hell, that might even open up the possibility for some odd build that deals almost equal Fire and Ice Damage on an attack, triggering EE on one element, boosting the other enough while weakening the first at the same time to have it trigger on the other Element. That way one half would be boosted by 50% while the other gets weakened by 25%, so, basically increasing your damage by a steady 25%!

Of course this would require a lot of fine tuning and be really awkward to properly get the damage up with, but, well, I'm just blabbering at this point. The first half explains my opinion of Blast Cascade and Chain Reaction!

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MrMoho wrote:

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dhuber666 wrote:

Hi,

how do you manage to get high crit chance with that build? I saw that you barely picked up Crit Nodes in the tree. And I think just the crit chance from Amu and Dagger + 5 Power Charges are too less CC am I right?

Did I miss something?

How do you think glove enchant "curse elemental weaknes on hit" will work with this build? (when you vaal gloves and you are really lucky) I think pretty damn well. It adds a good curse for free and it also triggers the curse before the trap detonates.

Also when is a rare dagger better then divinarius? When it has about the same crit chance and flat added lightning damage to spells? Same crit + Spell and flat added Lightning Damage? Would flat added cold damage to spells also work? Attack speed on dagger would be nice for whirling blades right?

Thank you for the guide I really love this build!

I might call this a crit build, but it's not a suuuper duper crit build. You won't be getting a chance to crit of 80% or something is what I mean with that, but a more oldschool 35-40%.

Anything "on hit" does not work with traps, sadly, thus these type of gloves won't be useful at all.

A rare Dagger becomes better when it has more crit and almost as much or more spell damage, pretty much. The added lightning damage sadly won't be super effective due to the counter productive way Elemental Equilibrium works (explained in my last post, actually), but if it has a nice amount of added lightning damage to spells plus good crit and spell damage, it should still be better.

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dhuber666 wrote:

The point with curse on hit is interesting. Because I googled it and they said that it works. Then I bought myself some crap gloves but with that implicit on it and it applied the curse with the traps?

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/3k7x1v/is_the_cursesonhit_on_corrupted_gear_only_if_you/

Or is that outdated?

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xFish wrote:

I am going to start playing this build. Planning on going life / MoM and I am just curious why you get so much ES and recommend ES gear. It does not work with MoM is it just because we will be short on mana if we get hit too much and also it has enough time to recharge while we run?

I played a similar build way back when and enjoyed it so I am looking forward to this build!

Thanks for the help.

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Cyanidios wrote:

Hi I just glanced over the guide and am looking for a build that can do uber Atziri and shaper. Shaper is possible I saw but is Uber Atziri also doable, or is it impossible due to the burn resistance? Thanks.

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MrMoho wrote:

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dhuber666 wrote:

The point with curse on hit is interesting. Because I googled it and they said that it works. Then I bought myself some crap gloves but with that implicit on it and it applied the curse with the traps?

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/3k7x1v/is_the_cursesonhit_on_corrupted_gear_only_if_you/

Or is that outdated?

Hum, I was taking my knowledge from the fact that "on hit" effects from the lab enchantment do not work with traps, so I figured it wouldn't had worked with the Corrupted mod either. I should probably find the time to try that one out.

Though, your third sentence confuses me a bit. So, did you buy the gloves and it worked, or are you planning to buy them to test if it will work?

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dhuber666 wrote:

Sry that it took me so long to get back to you.
I tested it myself. I'm currently playing with Enfeeble with Blasphemy + a rare amulet with +1 curse and the gloves with the Curse on Hit implicit. https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/dhuber666/characters

It works 100 %!

So while it's a very expensive upgrade (good glovs with that implicit - mine a far away from good + Rare Amu with 1 Additional Curse) I thought that is a very interesting update for you guide to consider. The damage you get from ele Weaknes is not bad and you still have a defense curse like enfeeble (my favourite) or temp chains.

What would you say to firenova mine instead of fire trap? I have to try it out today.