3.0 LL 26/20 Essence Drain Decay Bow build. Everything farmer.

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Rathke wrote:
Right now that's exactly my problem, the consequence adding a doedres has been having to replace steppan boots for a pair with a ton of reses but only 140 es, a chain belt and a ring with a low amount of Es. I think I'm at 6.5k right now, but the three curse setup is quite nice to have. I'm starting to wonder if it wouldn't be better as an occultist for the free extra curse, but the explosions are really annoying sometimes :/


Occultist is better for single target but I'm partial to occultist given how much stronger it is at everything but bosses. I'd rather sacrifice a gear slot than an ascendancy personally but ultimately it boils down to which you prefer.
Just regeared to this. Having trouble with clear speed. When I cast ED on something it absolutely melts, but the spread seems to be very low damage. Any idea why?

Like it can spread around to a whole pack and take ages to kill, where as if i ED it, it will just drop instantly.

My tooltip is 5.9k with auras up. Seems really low, I am hoping it is just because my gems arn't fully leveled yet, but they are around lvl 17 which worries me. I am only using a level 2 empower atm but am saving for a level 3.

Should i just use a consuming dark for now?
Last edited by bitbite11#0423 on Dec 18, 2016, 5:06:04 AM
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bitbite11 wrote:
Just regeared to this. Having trouble with clear speed. When I cast ED on something it absolutely melts, but the spread seems to be very low damage. Any idea why?

Like it can spread around to a whole pack and take ages to kill, where as if i ED it, it will just drop instantly.

My tooltip is 5.9k with auras up. Seems really low, I am hoping it is just because my gems arn't fully leveled yet, but they are around lvl 17 which worries me. I am only using a level 2 empower atm but am saving for a level 3.

Should i just use a consuming dark for now?



If you're currently using consuming dark stick with that. The transition to the decay bow will be an expensive one but it'll ultimately be worth it.

Don't worry about the slow spread, you can still haul ass away from packs and they'll still die.

When ever your gems are at level 20 don't hesitate to drop down a few map tiers or hit dried lake to level them after you 20 quality them. The level and quality of gems is the most important thing to increase dps aside from jewels.

You're using the level 2 empower a bit earlier than I would so I'd consider buying a lvl 3 corrupted empower until you manage to get a level a 4. That's the point where this build begins to shine compared to other meta builds.
Last edited by DerWeiss#6013 on Dec 19, 2016, 12:05:05 PM
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DerWeiss wrote:
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Guioki wrote:
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DerWeiss wrote:



If you added in the 33% from vulnerability it'll wind up just being the equivalent of another jewel slot or another piece of chaos dmg jewelry so not too much over all.


You keep saying this but isn't "enemies take 33% increased damage" a more multiplier?

It's additive with Wither but without Wither its 33% more damage. Even with a max stat Wither its still a decent more multiplier.


After a little bit of research ends up I am wrong. GGG needs to change the wording from increased to more.

The increased damage from vulnerability is technically "increased" rather than more but it functions as a "more" multiplier to enemies within the curse radius. Given how ED constantly off-screens packs I'd take the 40% enchant rather than the 3rd curse with a limited radius.

The dream for every ED player though is a Heretics veil with the 40% increased ED dmg and a +1 curse amulet. Then you'll get both rather than having to choose but it's an expensive proposition.


Well the problem I think is that it is NOT a more multiplier. It will act as a more multiplier if that is your only "mobs takes increased damage".

So if you have 1 30% mobs takes increased damage and your base damage is 1 the mob will take 1 (1 + 0.3 ) = 1.3 -> act as a more here.
So if you have 2 30% mobs takes increased damage and your base damage is 1 the mob will take 1 * (1 + 0.3 + 0.3) = 1.6 damage.
So how does this build work against the guards that are immune?
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MrNeskOne wrote:
So how does this build work against the guards that are immune?


As far as I've seen there're no decay immune guardians, with the 25% decay nerf it's slightly slower than it used to be but not by much. Everything still melts even if you're in a small party (2-3 total).

If GGG went and made guardians immune it'd be a huge slap in the face to the player base.
Any video update for 2.5 breach?
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popotm wrote:
Any video update for 2.5 breach?


Not yet unfortunately. I've been packing to move back to the states so I've had 0 time for POE. This is the first time I've had enough down time to remember to check the forum thread. If I get some time before I break down my PC I'll throw a video together.

My tool tip currently is around 42-43k chaos damage with a +1 non-decay bow with a level 3 empower. I haven't tried the guardians yet but it still clears T-15's, just not as fast as what you see in the current videos.
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DerWeiss wrote:
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popotm wrote:
Any video update for 2.5 breach?


Not yet unfortunately. I've been packing to move back to the states so I've had 0 time for POE. This is the first time I've had enough down time to remember to check the forum thread. If I get some time before I break down my PC I'll throw a video together.

My tool tip currently is around 42-43k chaos damage with a +1 non-decay bow with a level 3 empower. I haven't tried the guardians yet but it still clears T-15's, just not as fast as what you see in the current videos.



which one is better to use while i cant afford a +1 decay bow, a non-decay +1 bow or a decay bow without +1?
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vinagrete wrote:
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DerWeiss wrote:
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popotm wrote:
Any video update for 2.5 breach?


Not yet unfortunately. I've been packing to move back to the states so I've had 0 time for POE. This is the first time I've had enough down time to remember to check the forum thread. If I get some time before I break down my PC I'll throw a video together.

My tool tip currently is around 42-43k chaos damage with a +1 non-decay bow with a level 3 empower. I haven't tried the guardians yet but it still clears T-15's, just not as fast as what you see in the current videos.



which one is better to use while i cant afford a +1 decay bow, a non-decay +1 bow or a decay bow without +1?


If you've got the 6 link bow just alt a +1 and regal it so you can craft dex on it if you didn't already hit it.

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