[2.6] THE NEW FAKENER | DISCHARGE | SUPER FAST STRANDS | Cospris Malice | 9k+ ES | STILL GREAT AOE

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gtkingsley1 wrote:

Not the biggest fan of the shield charge spell, is it completely necessary for the build? Suppose I am just asking if a pure cyclone discharge build would work with whirling for movement.

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WillieS wrote:

Is anybody else playing around with new links for assassin 6L chest?

Old setup reference: Cyc/Crit/Acc/PCoC/CoC/BV

New BV at 8 stacks which is what we can maintain on a boss will be hitting 3x per second. So its not that great at maintaining extra charges anymore.

Damage is really lacking on single target, so I'd rather not run a fortify setup in 6l. Would like to play aroudn with firestorm or a 2nd discharge in chest.

A few ideas:

Cyc/Crit/Acc/PCoC/CoC/Firestorm
--I think this has to be better than old setup with BV. Firestorm can hit 10x per second, so we only need 3 hits to be just as good, but it scales with some ele dmg we have in tree

Cyc/Crit/Acc/CoC/Discharge/PCoC or Firestorm
--I think with 30% helm enchant and now 250ms cospri we can afford another discharge as were not super starved for charges


Theres a few other setups with FA, but I'm pretty sure I'd like to work at least firestorm in. If firestorm can hit single target 5x per sec, then it would be similar charges gained a a PCoC gem, but with added dmg.


Any ideas?

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dogbaby22 wrote:

I thought about either firestorm or ball lightning for power charge generation but I worry about the effects it may have on EE. Will it not matter? Is there any gap in the EE triggered by our melee crit from cyclone that would be overwritten by either firestorm or ball lightning?

I don't know if that makes sense. I guess I'm wondering if the time between cyclone crit and discharge is absolutely instant or is there a gap where firestorm hits might proc EE?

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WillieS wrote:

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dogbaby22 wrote:

I thought about either firestorm or ball lightning for power charge generation but I worry about the effects it may have on EE. Will it not matter? Is there any gap in the EE triggered by our melee crit from cyclone that would be overwritten by either firestorm or ball lightning?

I don't know if that makes sense. I guess I'm wondering if the time between cyclone crit and discharge is absolutely instant or is there a gap where firestorm hits might proc EE?

Pretty sure EE shouldn't have an effect. Discharge is instant, and only procs after we crit with our weapon with cold on it. Firestorm has 100ms delay, and im sure discharge proccing is much less.

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dogbaby22 wrote:

Yeah I wasn't sure but that sounds like it'll be the case. I haven't had time to test firestorm but I have the colors for it so will try it out later. Not sure if it'll be stronger than double discharge but I wouldn't be surprised if it is.

I was also thinking cwdt ball lightning and/or firestorm with pcoc and possibly blind if I have room for extra power charges on the side

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WillieS wrote:

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dogbaby22 wrote:

Yeah I wasn't sure but that sounds like it'll be the case. I haven't had time to test firestorm but I have the colors for it so will try it out later. Not sure if it'll be stronger than double discharge but I wouldn't be surprised if it is.

I was also thinking cwdt ball lightning and/or firestorm with pcoc and possibly blind if I have room for extra power charges on the side

Im thinking Cyc/Acc/Crit/CoC/Dis/Firestorm


PCoC is an extra 3 charges per second at 100% crit, (cyc hits 4x and the coc/dis will hit twice) 6*54%

So if firestorm hits 3/10, then thats 3 charges right there because its linked to voll's



I don't think ill have room for another cwdt setup, CWDT with IC and Warlords is too strong. Pretty much 3 sec IC everytime we get hit

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WillieS wrote:

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dogbaby22 wrote:

Yeah I wasn't sure but that sounds like it'll be the case. I haven't had time to test firestorm but I have the colors for it so will try it out later. Not sure if it'll be stronger than double discharge but I wouldn't be surprised if it is.

I was also thinking cwdt ball lightning and/or firestorm with pcoc and possibly blind if I have room for extra power charges on the side

Im thinking Cyc/Acc/Crit/CoC/Dis/Firestorm


PCoC is an extra 3 charges per second at 100% crit, (cyc hits 4x and the coc/dis will hit twice) 6*54%

So if firestorm hits 3/10, then thats 3 charges right there because its linked to voll's



I don't think ill have room for another cwdt setup, CWDT with IC and Warlords is too strong. Pretty much 3 sec IC everytime we get hit

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Quietess wrote:

Cospri's only procs off of melee crits, and a CoC'd firestorm can't proc the CoC that procs it to proc a discharge. Blade vortex was taken because it's technically melee that can proc Cospri.

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Quietess wrote:

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WillieS wrote:

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dogbaby22 wrote:

Yeah I wasn't sure but that sounds like it'll be the case. I haven't had time to test firestorm but I have the colors for it so will try it out later. Not sure if it'll be stronger than double discharge but I wouldn't be surprised if it is.

I was also thinking cwdt ball lightning and/or firestorm with pcoc and possibly blind if I have room for extra power charges on the side

Im thinking Cyc/Acc/Crit/CoC/Dis/Firestorm


PCoC is an extra 3 charges per second at 100% crit, (cyc hits 4x and the coc/dis will hit twice) 6*54%

So if firestorm hits 3/10, then thats 3 charges right there because its linked to voll's



I don't think ill have room for another cwdt setup, CWDT with IC and Warlords is too strong. Pretty much 3 sec IC everytime we get hit

Cospri's only procs off of melee crits, and a CoC'd firestorm can't proc the CoC that procs it to proc a discharge. Blade vortex was taken because it's technically melee that can proc Cospri.