[2.6] THE NEW FAKENER | DISCHARGE | SUPER FAST STRANDS | Cospris Malice | 9k+ ES | STILL GREAT AOE

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Frozenarms wrote:

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1. Watch the pcoc vs no pcoc video. More power charges = more dmg

2. in what?

3. 7k is enough for PF. assassin pushes higher

4. Death's door is damage and free unique flask (bleed immunity)

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2. in what?

Voll's protector, currently using Cyclone,Fort,Ics,BV,CoC,AA...is this ok or what would be more optimal

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4. Death's door is damage and free unique flask

We have that through pathfinder, so other than maybe the extra endurance charge is there any other viable option for boot slot?

oh sorry you're pathfinder. The best links are in the link tab on the thread.

Just use ES boots if u dont want to use DD's

well besides lv 21 crit chances or that 3 crit glove i cant get (in std)

is 74% crit with everything up ok? is it bad?

i have prettty much everything

I noted one thing. How you can use elemental equilibrium if cospri adds cold damage to attacks and spells?? to elemental equilibrium works you cant have any cold damage on spells to proc correctly, right?

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sergioppath wrote:

I noted one thing. How you can use elemental equilibrium if cospri adds cold damage to attacks and spells?? to elemental equilibrium works you cant have any cold damage on spells to proc correctly, right?

wrong. all the cold does is proc discharge and since we use only power and endurance charges, were only exploding with fire and lightning. each shield bash were re applying cold and weakening the other resists.

Thoughts on the following notable clusters please? (all near Witch area)
1. Alchemist (flask)
2. Annihilation (spell crit)
3. Throatseeker (crit multi)

versus some of the final allocated points to the build (Jewel nodes requiring 2 points off main path instead of 1 - etc)

Also just to repeat a question I asked earlier - Am I correct in saying these gems stay unlevelled?

Cyclone
Shield Charge
Fortify (if using of course)

Any benefit to levelling these if one has enough strength / dex?

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Daegon wrote:

Thoughts on the following notable clusters please? (all near Witch area)
1. Alchemist (flask)
2. Annihilation (spell crit)
3. Throatseeker (crit multi)

versus some of the final allocated points to the build (Jewel nodes requiring 2 points off main path instead of 1 - etc)

Also just to repeat a question I asked earlier - Am I correct in saying these gems stay unlevelled?

Cyclone
Shield Charge
Fortify (if using of course)

Any benefit to levelling these if one has enough strength / dex?

1. I didn't feel like alchemist was needed for assassin because I was able to keep flasks constantly while mapping anyway and the effectiveness isn't huge.

2. Capped spellcrit with diamond flask.

3. Throatseeker is good but there is nothing we can drop for it except ES. A good jewel is more dps.


Dont level: cyclone, shield charge, fortify, cwdt, warlords mark (5), IC (3).

Made changes to the guide to help readability

Made the gem section easier to read

Added more gear explanation

Updated Intro

Added Ascendancy order to Ascendancy section

Added new (optional) jewel search

Thanks for the support on the guide everyone.

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maddognils wrote:

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Daegon wrote:

Thoughts on the following notable clusters please? (all near Witch area)
1. Alchemist (flask)
2. Annihilation (spell crit)
3. Throatseeker (crit multi)

versus some of the final allocated points to the build (Jewel nodes requiring 2 points off main path instead of 1 - etc)

Also just to repeat a question I asked earlier - Am I correct in saying these gems stay unlevelled?

Cyclone
Shield Charge
Fortify (if using of course)

Any benefit to levelling these if one has enough strength / dex?

1. I didn't feel like alchemist was needed for assassin because I was able to keep flasks constantly while mapping anyway and the effectiveness isn't huge.

2. Capped spellcrit with diamond flask.

3. Throatseeker is good but there is nothing we can drop for it except ES. A good jewel is more dps.


Dont level: cyclone, shield charge, fortify, cwdt, warlords mark (5), IC (3).

Thanks for the swift and detailed reply - all makes sense :) And thanks again for the awesome build and guide, I finally hit lvl 69 last night to be able to use all gear I saved for the build - so much fun..

So while levelling I had a really sweet setup with a lucky Vagan dagger roll (crit + AS), Discharge in the Voll's chest and was using herald of Ice to get that cold dmg for EE, also what was working so well for me was having Both Vaal Haste and Vaal Disc linked to Inc Dur, and then Decoy Totem + FC + Vaal Summon Skeletons in shield. In boots I had CWDT + Inc Dur + IC + Ice Golem and in helm I ran a Blasphemy setup with Warlord's Mark.

Everything synergised well and all gems fitted perfectly but now after hitting 68 / 69 and equipping Cospri's and also the Purities in helm - I of course have to move Discharge to the sword and add Life leech and Inc Crit Strikes, and drop blasphemy / curse. So now I am having a hard time letting go of my vaal skills and I am not sure what to prioritise for the CWDT setup and shield slot gems..

Since we know helm, gloves, weapon and chest gem setups are pretty much fixed - and I realise you said its up to personal preference for the rest - and yes I did see your own setup as a reference - but maybe others could chime in here on a quick rating of the following setups?

<Helm, chest, sword and glove gems are as per guide, and take note I do have Death's Door + Leech enchant, and a LL gem in Cospri's>

1. Decoy Totem, Faster Casting and Vaal Discipline in Shield
CWDT + IC + Inc Dur + Ice Golem in Boots

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2. Vaal Haste + Vaal Disc + Inc Dur in Shield
CWDT + IC + Warlord's Mark + Ice Golem in Boots

OR

3. Vaal Haste + Vaal Summon Skellies + Vaal Disc in Shield
CWDT + IC + Ice Golem + Vortex in Boots

etc etc or some combination / variation of the above... or do a CWDT setup in both shield and boots?

Any thoughts or strong preferences people have or have found to work well? I currently went from Blasphemy + Warlord's Mark to having no active curse and it feels wierd ^^ If you check my character doing this build out on my account -his name is Vaaroh

I think I have not prioritised endgame node order correctly and left many ES / defensive nodes and CI cluster a little late - but I chose the one-node-off-path Jewel nodes to slot in Dex jewels to equip Cospris.. I do have a Vinktar / Dying Sun / Rumi's all ready if needed but still using life flasks since I am not CI yet.. General tips on the char are greatly appreciated :D

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Daegon wrote:

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Thanks for the swift and detailed reply - all makes sense :) And thanks again for the awesome build and guide, I finally hit lvl 69 last night to be able to use all gear I saved for the build - so much fun..

So while levelling I had a really sweet setup with a lucky Vagan dagger roll (crit + AS), Discharge in the Voll's chest and was using herald of Ice to get that cold dmg for EE, also what was working so well for me was having Both Vaal Haste and Vaal Disc linked to Inc Dur, and then Decoy Totem + FC + Vaal Summon Skeletons in shield. In boots I had CWDT + Inc Dur + IC + Ice Golem and in helm I ran a Blasphemy setup with Warlord's Mark.

Everything synergised well and all gems fitted perfectly but now after hitting 68 / 69 and equipping Cospri's and also the Purities in helm - I of course have to move Discharge to the sword and add Life leech and Inc Crit Strikes, and drop blasphemy / curse. So now I am having a hard time letting go of my vaal skills and I am not sure what to prioritise for the CWDT setup and shield slot gems..

Since we know helm, gloves, weapon and chest gem setups are pretty much fixed - and I realise you said its up to personal preference for the rest - and yes I did see your own setup as a reference - but maybe others could chime in here on a quick rating of the following setups?

<Helm, chest, sword and glove gems are as per guide, and take note I do have Death's Door + Leech enchant, and a LL gem in Cospri's>

1. Decoy Totem, Faster Casting and Vaal Discipline in Shield
CWDT + IC + Inc Dur + Ice Golem in Boots

OR

2. Vaal Haste + Vaal Disc + Inc Dur in Shield
CWDT + IC + Warlord's Mark + Ice Golem in Boots

OR

3. Vaal Haste + Vaal Summon Skellies + Vaal Disc in Shield
CWDT + IC + Ice Golem + Vortex in Boots

etc etc or some combination / variation of the above... or do a CWDT setup in both shield and boots?

Any thoughts or strong preferences people have or have found to work well? I currently went from Blasphemy + Warlord's Mark to having no active curse and it feels wierd ^^ If you check my character doing this build out on my account -his name is Vaaroh

I think I have not prioritised endgame node order correctly and left many ES / defensive nodes and CI cluster a little late - but I chose the one-node-off-path Jewel nodes to slot in Dex jewels to equip Cospris.. I do have a Vinktar / Dying Sun / Rumi's all ready if needed but still using life flasks since I am not CI yet.. General tips on the char are greatly appreciated :D

I can chime in abit on the CWDT setup. It's not necessary to have it in a 4 link with golem, because cwdt cannot cast golem anyway, since it is low level to proc warlords mark more often, therefore providing no benefit whatsoever.

Hope this helped abit, if you do play around with different setups let me know how it turns out. GL!

Is it entirely necessary to use life leech in the weapon? I know that there were people who had issues with leeching, but I was watching a HC streamer play this build in t15's w/o leech. I've got leech on my Devotion and Death's Door.