[outdated] King of the Forest (Crit version)

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Kyasma wrote:
Can I dump the +1 frenzy charge and 36% increased frenzy charge duration in favor of Vaal Pact?


You'd lose a bunch of dps and your timer for frenzy charges would be like 6.5s which would suck for boss fights with no adds.

Personally I'd rather drop hp or evasion if you aren't hurting for survivability.
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Thaya wrote:
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Fariel wrote:
Helo, I don't like to use Slower Projectile Support, which gem Could I use alternatively??
Slower Projectile beats the shit out of ANY other option.

"More projectile damage" is insane. Proj Damage is our very best stat (notice how we take every bit of it in the skill tree), it increases everything and double dips into poison. And this is a whopping 40% multiplier.

I'm afraid the only answer is, learn to like Slower Projectiles Support. You will severely gimp yourself by replacing it with anything else.


What about faster projectiles support that grants 20 % more projectile damage instead of 29% from Slower porjectile dmg. The clear speed should be considerably higher at the cost of only 9% projectile damage that is not a lot.

And also what about Physical Projectile Attack Damage Support , could be a valid alternative to Slower PRoj support gem?
Last edited by Fariel#6399 on Jan 16, 2017, 4:22:54 PM
What upgrade should I get next: 2nd 6link for LA, dying sun or +2 barrage projectiles?
Last edited by PurityOfOne#0715 on Jan 16, 2017, 3:34:39 PM
Hi, what is my next upgrade? a Reach of the council 6L? I have got only 30 chaos for now... guess i'll have to play a bit more.

Also, i have only 4,9k life at level 83, is that normal? I didnt take the +40 life from oak, i got an passive skill point.

Here are my stuff at this point. I'm doing tier 9 rare maps with no difficult. Guess I could do some more.




For gems, im using:


Also, OP had almost 20k evasion with grace, i haven't got even 19k, what am I missing?

And about the tree, what should I get now? I saw some difference in the tree from this post and from the breach league. Should I get the 3 missing life nodes? With that I'd get 6k life?

Here is my tree:

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Thanks in advance.
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Fariel wrote:
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Thaya wrote:
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Fariel wrote:
Helo, I don't like to use Slower Projectile Support, which gem Could I use alternatively??
Slower Projectile beats the shit out of ANY other option.

"More projectile damage" is insane. Proj Damage is our very best stat (notice how we take every bit of it in the skill tree), it increases everything and double dips into poison. And this is a whopping 40% multiplier.

I'm afraid the only answer is, learn to like Slower Projectiles Support. You will severely gimp yourself by replacing it with anything else.


What about faster projectiles support that grants 20 % more projectile damage instead of 29% from Slower porjectile dmg. The clear speed should be considerably higher at the cost of only 9% projectile damage that is not a lot.

And also what about Physical Projectile Attack Damage Support , could be a valid alternative to Slower PRoj support gem?


Faster projectiles gives increased Damage, not more. Also, PPAD Only increases Physical part of our damage damage.
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Lethardus wrote:
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Kyasma wrote:
Can I dump the +1 frenzy charge and 36% increased frenzy charge duration in favor of Vaal Pact?


You'd lose a bunch of dps and your timer for frenzy charges would be like 6.5s which would suck for boss fights with no adds.

Personally I'd rather drop hp or evasion if you aren't hurting for survivability.


4% attack speed and more damage is really that huge? On paper it looks really minor, but I guess I can drop the 3 points elsewhere.
Ty for this build Sweeeeeeeeeet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :):):):):):):)
Bought myself a Reach and played for about a week still using GMP wondering why my DPS dropped so much, yea, I'm stupid.

Today I got two snakebites while doing atziri, decided to corrupt then and got this:

It's not the best but I think it can work, I'm just not sure which curse to use.I believe poacher's mark is the worst, but tempchain and projecweakness are both good.

Any thoughts if this is going to work?

I have another question, how good would be Point Blank for this build? I never tried so I don't know how close you need to be to get the full damage it can provide. I find myself dealing with UberIzaro and normal atziri from really close range, so maybe it can work?
Would really appreciate some thoughts on this, thanks again for the guide!


Last edited by Tiozao#6582 on Jan 16, 2017, 11:15:57 PM
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Tiozao wrote:

I have another question, how good would be Point Blank for this build? I never tried so I don't know how close you need to be to get the full damage it can provide. I find myself dealing with UberIzaro and normal atziri from really close range, so maybe it can work?
Would really appreciate some thoughts on this, thanks again for the guide!


Does point blank make you do less damage than baseline from far away, or just more up close? I agree for the bosses you're talking about, point blank would most likely really improve your chances. Also, same thing for Breachlords other than Chayula where the chaos cyclone is really the only threat, I always find that I'm standing right next to them anyway. They are really bad at killing decoy totem.
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el_Nino_69 wrote:
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Ayrill wrote:
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NomadFX wrote:
FYI im running a cospris will Version of this build. it should be more defensive as i also spec into Phase acro and running atziris step boots.
i do skip grace for a double curse blasphemy. the diminishing Returns on Evasion are just too high for me.

it is still WIP of course and the gear isnt perfect yet but it wrecks stuff.
using assmark and temp chains for power charge gen and more defense, for hard fight (uber izaro and stuff) i use temp chains + enfeeble. this combined with my high Dodge/Spelldodge makes me a bit tankier than the original Version of this build i think while not lacking any DPS (apart from unoptimized gear)

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6,3k health, 8k Barrage and 14k LS in town. clocked around 70 hours on this toon.


Hmm so you dopped Grace and Arctic armor for Enfeeble and Assasin's mark?

Hmm i got gloves with Cast Vulnerability on Hit.. so my opinion was to get just enfeeble..

maybe i should drop grace for enfeeble+blaspemy.. ^^ so i lose ~5-6% dodge chance.. for a lot damage reduction :)

btw. if you go Cospris Will why you still have Frenzy in your items? ^^ and what is your plan behind that Tornado Shot in your boots? ^^

i'm just not that happy to lose so much movementspeed.. :/


Hi, I'm using Cospri's as well. Sure, I lost some movement-speed but for me it is ok. I wasn't such a big fan of the Snakebite-playstyle and prefered the poisoning with my Curse-on-hit-gloves. Will put a cwdt with Enfeeble, but have to 4s my gloves (need higher Vorici).

Have 6.400 life, dealing 16.000 Barrage-dmg in hideout without any buffs.

Here is my gear:



dropped my Queen of the Forest Armor yesterday and my Grace Aura.

Finaly i run Enfeeble Aura + Arctic Armor + Herald of Ice with Enlighten Gems (Got 865 Mana with Enlighten Gems i have ~200 Mana Left) + Cast Vulnerbility on Hit on my Gloves :)

With Grace i had around ~21000 Evationrating what made ~61% Evade chance, without i have 12000 Evationrating what is ~50% Evade chance. I guess the ~10% are worth for enfeeble, because the incoming damage is lowered a lot. :)

+ the Herald of Ice Skill added a bit more Waveclear :)

i also dropped frenzy because i get the Poison on Hit now from Cospri's Will :)

need to test the damage a bit but it feels still the same on mapping. made yesterday T13 maps and i still oneshot groups.. just the boss damage feelse more smooth :)

By the way.. i kept my Devoto's Helmed, so i'm still on 73% Movementspeed.

Sure i have not the ~90 Life and the 25% Global crit but i still lost not that much speed.

i mean.. the 25% global crit should not be that much or? is there a formula to calculate how much % crit chance it is?

the 50% higher Evasionrating is nice on low life but i think its not that useful.. because i'm always instant full life with the lifeleech + instant leech flask.. and the -50% reduced damage on low life sucks pretty hard xD

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