[outdated] King of the Forest (Crit version)

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exirabit wrote:

Hi all,

So I've tried to upgrade some and do better but I'm struggling A LOT with this build. I just dont seem to survive long enough to manage anything and my dps is too low to get past that. I'm working on getting my gems to 20 so that I can start +20 quality them etc, but thats a long term effort. I replaced rings and belt to get more life and damage, but I'm still struggling with low level bosses (e.g., lvl 8 maps) and I cant even manage Merci lab, Izzy just owns my face.

I dont know what I'm doing wrong and any help would be appreciated :(

Also, I have basically no currency, so I dont have the multiple exalts necessary to upgrade to 6l items :(

My Tree:

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https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAYBAABeAdwDHgUtBbUILg2NEJIRLxQgFr8Zjh9BIXYj0yP2JpUqCypbLlMwfDH6MjI2PTfUOdRDMUM2RA1Hfkp9TP9Nkk4qUUdS7FVLVYVW-luvXfJfP2HiYqxlTWqMbIxwUnGwdO11y3X9dvd343loefZ9dX8rhG-E2YbOh3aJ04w2jX2Nfo2_j2CdqqCfotmly6iiqW6q-LDYtMW1SLxvvTa-p8EEwTPB2MLsyBTI8M2Y02_TftQj1ELZhtrB45_qYutj7T_tg-4O73r1b_zF_ro=

First and foremost, because you didn't follow OP's skill link ? Throw Way that gmp, it's excessive and kill your dmg by more than 70% (double dip) merc lab I did with 4L and laughing at izaro.... Besides don't use faster atk, use the appropriate gem link on OP post. Follow that, then do comment again if you have problem.

PS: do you know the playstyle of this char ? Check CadmiumFlow's advice and see what is lacking, in the first page second post. Your skilltree looks okay except you invested 1 useless node beside druidic rite.

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xFL0W wrote:

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And how do you poison on hit?

i have the poison gem linked with the tornado shot setup. Its on my Kintsugi. lost only 2k hideout DPS without the void manipulation gem.

Loosing that gem bad for dmg due to void is the biggest multiplier that double dips. I would prefer cospri version with acuity, but let see how that goes (I'm still far from perfect gear. And no fund for acuity)

**Idea: thinking using cospri with TC enfeeble, invest few point into curse effectiveness, with vulnerability from necklace corrupted would be perfect. Then couple with acuity and point-blank, would be nice defensive variant.

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ggsbv wrote:

I see OP got another Life Leech node near Vitality Void on his most recent character's tree. Does that mean he was going to get Vitality Void with his next passive? I was wondering about Vitality Void to increase the leech rate - what do you guys think?

By the way, I am trying out Phase Acro and personally I feel like it has increased my survivability. Sure, the most dangerous hits aren't spells, but in situations like high tier map breaches there is a whole lot of shit going on and having an extra 10% dodge as well as 30% spell dodge for 4 points does not seem bad at all. Am experimenting with Vaal Grace, and what I have noticed is that Vaal Grace + Phase Acro means it is quite difficult to die, although it does suck to lose Vaal Haste and the clear speed that it offers...

I am more curious about Vitality Void though, what do you think?

I'm not 100% sure but it seems he put that there while he was testing out point blank. He dropped the 3 nodes to get the Vitality Life wheel and then changed his route to go past Point blank so he can add it and remove it as he pleases with testing.

Of the 3 points it seems he put 2 into the Scion life wheel and then OP probably thought that life leech was just the best survivability node left on the tree for him. It's hard to know because when you get to the mid 90's each level takes so long that you end up taking whatever node is best in that instant. Then once you've gotten enough levels you will spec out of these points and get a gem node or something.

Hopefully OP will reply and give us an answer to what he is testing as it seems he is currently playing a SRS summoner.

Also if you are taking phase acro and finding success with it would be interesting to see your character but it seems you have yet to toggle it from the default "set profile as private".

yeah i just wanted to test if more leech means anything - I couldnt feel a difference though.

and yeah it was because I didnt know what else to pick :D If I did level further, I would respec around and get Thick skin next.

I set my char to public. I didn't know it was private, I could swear it wasn't in the past.

My tree is pretty much like OP's, but without a few jewel slots and + Phase Acro. I was planning on buying the jewels last, after buying all necessary gear. After I have a few gg jewels I will respec and try without Phase Acro again (aswell as add chaos dmg jewellery), but I am very sure that while you don't have your gear maxxed out that going Phase Acro is not a waste of time.. I mean I struggle to die now and have to play real stupid in order to die. Either that or do ridiculous map mods.

My dps is still amazing, packs are 1 - 2 shot even in T15s, and bosses die within 2 seconds of bursting with barrage.

I've gone from 94 0% - 50% exp no deaths, and done some pretty crazy map mods. I went from 93 50% - 100% no deaths as well. I only die when I level because that's when I try doing crazy map mods, or vaal temple map, or hydra (as was the case when I dinged 94).

if you are rich and want to experiment a bit, you can try to get a 2nd 6L for lightning arrow.

use innervate as the 6th link, that way you dont need a silver flask. so you can either use a jade of reflexes for movespeed, or a sin's rebirth.

then get a devoto with the lightning arrow hits additional targets and a dying sun. that should yield amazing clear. Barrage will be enough dps for map bosses anyways.

I am 90, I really like the build overall, but I feel like I lack damage. Could anyone take a look and tell me what should I focus on upgrading, I have around 6 ex right now to spend.



Thanks a lot!

Hi, i'll try this build, but i need know, I can use Tornado Shot instead Lightning Arrow ??

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Revolutia wrote:

I am 90, I really like the build overall, but I feel like I lack damage. Could anyone take a look and tell me what should I focus on upgrading, I have around 6 ex right now to spend.

Thanks a lot!

Get 21/20 added chaos, increase crit gem. They are the gem that contribute most damage with that upgrade. The next you should do is the craft your accessories with flat chaos damage (require elreon 7) you should use rare belt for most situation except phy reflect. They are around 10-20% dmg for finalise build. Try use sulphur flask maybe ? But it's more than enough damage without it, I don't have any offensive flask except diamond flask

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Keylors wrote:

Hi, i'll try this build, but i need know, I can use Tornado Shot instead Lightning Arrow ??

It's listed in OP guide, we do use it in ele reflect map, but not recommend to use it for non-reflect situation. Lightning arrow is too good to give up, I tried once replacing with TS, never want to use it again, so I decide to reroll ele reflect map.

PS: blood rage quality also matters alot