Frost Bomb needs PvP scaling of some sort.

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It is a bit strong at level 1, as a low level cwdt no brainer.

It's not the same as block pen because you're not sacrificing a slot on your 6L (and block pen removes a much smaller proportion of block, as well as requires more investment to 20/20; also block pen is relatively weak vs block compared to skills that completely ignore block like secondary damage).

Relative to alternatives lvl 1 frost bomb is too strong in pvp vs regen builds, creating a somewhat lame meta where everyone has it all the time, or swaps it in with minimal opportunity cost. GGG could increase the opportunity cost by making it incompatible with cwdt and similar triggers (like orb of storms). And least then there'd be some effort involved.

I'd like to see more variety, perhaps other skills (or curses) that interact with regen /instant healing /life gain/ recharge/ etc. (and flask use).


This. More alternatives with other ways to scale would be great.

This isn't just about my afk build. I use level 1 CWDT/Frost Bomb on almost every PvP character I've made because it's so good against any character with any amount of regen. There are a ton of Blood Magic characters with huge regen that this gem totally shits on. CI regen tanks as well. Feels too strong for the tiny amount of investment made, and it's the only possible option to counter.
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In this one shot meta we have i guess 1 gem slot doesnt matter. Nerf this or not I'm just thankful we have this brainless counter for brainless builds.

i dont think we have one shot meta anymore. what does one shot? harley's fireball maybe. Grand Spectrum EA from close range.

we have most likely, unblockable AoE > everything meta as we used to have before.
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i had blast rain miner and i got bored to death while using it. i cant understand people who choose to be miner. its so boring.
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In order to do enough damage With my noncrit storm call ci character, I needed to go miner which worked fine but was boring af. Thinking about selling my ci shit now
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Stack auto target mines, wait for someone to get close, detonate mines.

Is the player dead ?

yes_ Brag about how skilled you are.

no_ Repeat previous steps.
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IceDeal wrote:
Stack auto target mines, wait for someone to get close, detonate mines.

Is the player dead ?

yes_ Brag about how skilled you are.

no_ Repeat previous steps.


For a while I thought they just had massive AoE increases. I didn't know they auto targeted, after I found that out I was like............haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahaha wwwwwwwwwwwttttttttttfffffffff.
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IceDeal wrote:
Stack auto target mines, wait for someone to get close, detonate mines.

Is the player dead ?

yes_ Brag about how skilled you are.

no_ Repeat previous steps.


You forgot the part when they complain about immortal builds at the end.
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TBH PvP would be better off without regen and CW gems entirely. Flasks should be enough for anyone who isn't trolling. But oh the screaming of the mindless children that would ensue if it were made so... I just ran into one of them. He seemed very impressed with himself and determined to stop me from getting my dailies.


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