[3.17] The Warchief | [Facebreaker] Ancestral Warchief | Uber Boss Farmer | Beginner -> Expert

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kimarr26 wrote:

Hi,

I am playing around with this build as well since some time and am currently at the stage (Lvl90) where I try to rework the proposed skill tree and check with POB how this will affect my build.
Currently I play with three totems + blood magic in passive skill tree and have equipped the following:
- Tukohama Shield
- Tabula Rasa
- Facebreaker (still without curse on hit)
- Abyssus
- Meginords Girdle
- (I have Loreweave but still not 6 linked it)

Now I have a few questions where I hope you can help me to understand and clarify a few things:

1. When I use BLASHEMY + VULNERABILITY I can see enemies will be cursed automatically. Is it correct that cursed enemies will NOT get a chance to bleed when my totems attack due to the fact that we also use ELEMENTAL FOCUS SUPPORT in the 6-link with the totems (supported skills cannot inflict elemental ailments)?

2. When I use BLASPHEMY + WARLORDS MARK di I get the endurance charges when my totems kill a monster?

3. same as question 2... but do I get the mana and life leech of WARLORDS MARK or the totems?

4. What is the point in taking VAAL LIGHTNING TRAP - so far I do not see much value to manually lay a trap that usually triggers way too late

5. is CWDT (Lvl1) + STONE GOLEM (Lvl3) really important as it only grants 39 life reg per second? I am thinking about using something else... why would you keep it or what is your insight about this?

6. I am not a big fan of manually casting VAAL skills (such as VAAL GRACE or VAAL HASTE) and thinking about using something else...
a. either using a gem setup with a CURSE + BLASHEMY (but with the downside to have 35% life reserved) - what CURSE would make sense and do affect me and not my totems?
b. maybe play around with the skill tree to get to the node for an additional curse (the one on facebreaker later)
c. if ELEMENTAL FOCUS stopps the TOTEMS to inflict elemental ailments, what do you think about removing ELEMENTAL FOCUS and always use CONCENTRATED EFFECT instead?

I guess I have more questions and would like to have a chat with you guys... preferably in german... let me know what you think either here or I can also offer a TS3 server to discuss (but then in german please ;-)

cheers,
Nukefist

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Saarthal wrote:

Hey there, I'm just wondering would this build be able to realiably carry groups of 4-6 people through the uber lab? I'm looking for a build that can do that for the next league. Thanks bro appreciate the responses.

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A7X89 wrote:

Hi,

i killed Uber Elder with the Chieftain-Version. But i have another skill tree, a better i would say.

Shaper DPS without flask: 173k per totem
Shaper DPS with flasks: 228k per totem.

Here is my pastebin: https://pastebin.com/1D2DeaEe

If i use the chieftain-tree from the start post, i have 300 life less and 10/12k less dps per totem.

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guggelhupf wrote:

as you prefered i will answer your questions in german


1. laut dem wiki zählt bleed nicht zu den elemental ailments "Ignite, chill, freeze and shock are collectively referred to as elemental ailments" was auch sinn macht, da es physicher schaden ist. davon abgesehen macht der bleed aber kaum dmg

2/3. nein du bekommst weder endurance charges noch leechen die totem leben für dich. dafür braucht es einen extra modifier wie zB bei der Chieftain klassee: "1% of Damage dealt by your Totems Leeched to you as Life"

4. vaal lightning trap hilft bei wirklichen starken bossen wie den guardians oder uber atziri etc. es ist einfach ein zusätzlicher more multiplier

5. ich weis nicht wo du ein CWDT setup bei mir mit nem lvl 3er golem gesehen hast o.O

6a/b. es macht überhaupt keinen sinn blasphemy mit blood magic zu nehmen, da 35% weniger life viel zu viel ist.

6c. es macht deutlich mehr sinn mit ele focus UND conc effect zu spielen, als diese gegeneinander auszutauschen, da deren dmg quasi der gleiche ist und conc effect noch den downside hat des geringeren aoe radius. davon abgesehen macht der ignite dmg kaum bis gar keinen schaden und ist somit hinfällig. beste option ist also einfach dauerhaft mit conc effect UND ele focus zu spielen (wie ich es übrigens selber auch mache)

hoffe ich könnte dir ein wenig weiter helfen

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kimarr26 wrote:

Hi,

thank you for answering. I was just referring having a chat in TEAMSPEAK in german with other people who are interested in this build... otherwise I am fine with english. So anyone who like to chat about their experience with this build, please drop me a PM here or ingame (Nukefist)...

1. you are right - I missed that and thought bleed will also count as ELEMENTAL AILMENT.
2./3. Okay - so it does not make any sense to use WARLORDS MARK at all if it is just for the totems and not for the char.
4. ok - make sense... just curious... do you see any other option which might come to your mind instead of this... right now I am barely using it...
5. i see it on your boots: CWDT -> Stone Golem -> Vaal Lightning Trap -> Increased Duration.
I thought you keep CWDT on lvl1 to trigger stone golem more often? But when I think about it, you probably max CWDT + STONE GOLEM to get higher life reg, right? Would make sense to me and I should change that;-)
6a/b. agree, it is a big downside and probably not worth it to play around with additional curses at all.. (except the one on facebreaker if I can ever afford one with this enchant...)
6c. When I talked about swapping ELE FOCUS against CONC EFFECT I thought it might help against the status ailments (...but as you stated bleed is none) - got that now.
Usually I played with ELE FOCUS + INC AREA EFFECT for fast map clear. Do you not use INC AREA EFFECT anymore at all or do you still use INC AREA EFFECT for map clear speed and swap this to CONC EFFECT for hard bosses as you mentioned?

I also had a look at the passive skill tree... what do you think about the three TOTEM DAMAGE nodes slightly below elemental overload? Could you think of a way to include them in the build without sacrificing to much other stuff? ...just an idea....

Anyway, thank you for your great work here - I am enjoying the build so far ;-)

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PleaseMasterMakeMeScream wrote:

my dps higher than yours :3

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FatWhiteBaby wrote:

Hey im new to this build/poe. How much life should i have with this build in order to run uber lab safely. Also how does Tukohamas work since it has blood magic and just cuts my life in half?