+1 Council's Reach & Experiment Results

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sneakyJ wrote:

I would say its about as best in slot as Disfavour. Why should Reach get nerfed when Disfavour hasn't? Because the fight to get it isn't as hard as Uber Atziri? I made an endgame lab runner, I can just go do the same for uber atziri and in 2 days Im running her as well.

This nerf philosophy is ridiculous and it ruins these kinds of games.

Maybe because GGG wanted unique items be pure shit and vendor trash? Maybe thats why Reach will be nerfed? No?

Wow congratulation! One happy corruption there.

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TreeOfDead wrote:

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sneakyJ wrote:

I would say its about as best in slot as Disfavour. Why should Reach get nerfed when Disfavour hasn't? Because the fight to get it isn't as hard as Uber Atziri? I made an endgame lab runner, I can just go do the same for uber atziri and in 2 days Im running her as well.

This nerf philosophy is ridiculous and it ruins these kinds of games.

Maybe because GGG wanted unique items be pure shit and vendor trash? Maybe thats why Reach will be nerfed? No?

Voll's Protector, vendor trash. Lightning Coil, vendor trash. Facebreakers, vendor trash. Atziri's Disfavour, vendor trash. Voidheart, vendor trash. There are plenty of not-GG but still good uniques like Bino's or Voltaxic or Atziri's step, too.

Making a blanket statement "GGG hates unique items" is incorrect.

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ThatsSoGoodman wrote:

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TreeOfDead wrote:

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sneakyJ wrote:

I would say its about as best in slot as Disfavour. Why should Reach get nerfed when Disfavour hasn't? Because the fight to get it isn't as hard as Uber Atziri? I made an endgame lab runner, I can just go do the same for uber atziri and in 2 days Im running her as well.

This nerf philosophy is ridiculous and it ruins these kinds of games.

Maybe because GGG wanted unique items be pure shit and vendor trash? Maybe thats why Reach will be nerfed? No?

Voll's Protector, vendor trash. Lightning Coil, vendor trash. Facebreakers, vendor trash. Atziri's Disfavour, vendor trash. Voidheart, vendor trash. There are plenty of not-GG but still good uniques like Bino's or Voltaxic or Atziri's step, too.

Making a blanket statement "GGG hates unique items" is incorrect.

Voll's Protector used mainly for 1 specific build. Lightning Coil already received a hefty nerf. Facebreakers is the only item for unarmed builds right? Wasn't it nerfed before? Disfavour gated behind hardest fight in the game which is fine. Voidheart could be nerfed, although it really shouldn't. Isn't melee shit on enough?

Bino's nerfed, Voltaxic nerfed.

I spent quite a bunch of fusings to 6L my Reach. I don't want it gone when the league is over. I could easily buy a Glyph but that's not what I want.

Melee is always in the worst spot in the game. What do we have on this side? Reave and Earthquake? So why are people talking about voidheart getting nerfed? It's the only thing that is helping push melee up a few notches to compete. And even then, its still behind the clear speed of ranged and casters. And far more punishing unless you go 80% defensive on the tree which slows down clear speed.

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TreeOfDead wrote:

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sneakyJ wrote:

I would say its about as best in slot as Disfavour. Why should Reach get nerfed when Disfavour hasn't? Because the fight to get it isn't as hard as Uber Atziri? I made an endgame lab runner, I can just go do the same for uber atziri and in 2 days Im running her as well.

This nerf philosophy is ridiculous and it ruins these kinds of games.

Maybe because GGG wanted unique items be pure shit and vendor trash? Maybe thats why Reach will be nerfed? No?

Wrong and wrong. You two are kind of people who push the power-creep meta further and further. You do not understand that being able to get BiS uniques for cheap is invalidating using anything else. RARES EXIST FOR A REASON. Reach is way too powerful for how easy it is to get.

I never said to keep it easy to get. But Disfavour is in the game. Maybe gate Reach behind something much harder than it is. Why take it out when it bridges the physical bow gap between 300pdps and Glyph

I don't think its bad to save up while using a 5 link Kaom's for a unlinked Disfavour. A good strong week and you got your axe and start dumping fusings to link it.

What's wrong with bows having that option? Use your Lioneye's until you can save up for Reach (reach would of course be more expensive if its gated behind harder content)

And rares take so much currency to roll whats the point. I am done crafting my own things. Spent way too much trying to craft different things and its not worth it.

Please understand that not everyone can spend an insane amount of time playing this game. I have been putting in alot of time recently but that is not the case for most people. I would say a nice chunk of players probably are married and have children. Between that and their jobs, why should they run around in rags and a broken tree branch with -12 all res for 2-3 months. I have used Glyph and I have used Reach. Reach isn't in the same league...but it bridges the gap and allows people with less time, to feel pretty damn powerful.

I think the elitists who play this game 20 hours a week can't understand that. There are already plenty of BIS uniques. That can't be argued.

Gues i price mine at 999 psc just for #1 spot, seems like it's super fun to deal with all that stupid wispers everyday in and out...