Mechanical Questions Thread

Hi everyone, I have a basic question about curses.

If I have a curse with vulnerability on hit, with 20% increased effect ring, does that increase apply to level 1 gem version of the curse? so enemies would take 30% * 1.2 = 36% increased physical damage?
Why does crit roll per action rather than per target/hit? Is there any reason it's handled differently from (AFAIK) most other on-hit effects?
Last edited by Seikah#0204 on Nov 22, 2020, 8:10:16 PM
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iliadrm wrote:
Hi everyone, I have a basic question about curses.

If I have a curse with vulnerability on hit, with 20% increased effect ring, does that increase apply to level 1 gem version of the curse? so enemies would take 30% * 1.2 = 36% increased physical damage?


They are Level 1 versions unless mentioned, similar with Arcane Surge in Hierophant ascendancy. Yes, that is also how we calculate the final increased phys damage.
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Seikah wrote:
Why does crit roll per action rather than per target/hit? Is there any reason it's handled differently from (AFAIK) most other on-hit effects?


This is why only cyclone and assassin class can pull off CoC builds. Barrage CoC feels bad unless you are crit-capped, as in you can go long stretches without casting anything, which gets you mobbed and killed.

This question belongs to Feedback and Suggestion Section.
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jeerinho wrote:
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Seikah wrote:
Why does crit roll per action rather than per target/hit? Is there any reason it's handled differently from (AFAIK) most other on-hit effects?


This is why only cyclone and assassin class can pull off CoC builds. Barrage CoC feels bad unless you are crit-capped, as in you can go long stretches without casting anything, which gets you mobbed and killed.

This question belongs to Feedback and Suggestion Section.


Thank you for the reply, but I think you're reading too much into my question. I've never played cast-on-crit, and I'm not providing feedback or a suggestion; it's a plain question about game mechanics. Namely, is there currently, or was there historically, a mechanical reason the crit roll occurs per action?

Is it just a design decision? Does it have something to do with how targets get an evasion check against crits? Is it significantly less calculation for the server? Am I mistaken about crit being an exception to the rule, and it's actually standard for procs (e.g. chance to bleed, chance to deal double damage) to roll per action?
Last edited by Seikah#0204 on Nov 23, 2020, 9:06:47 AM
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Seikah wrote:

Thank you for the reply, but I think you're reading too much into my question. I've never played cast-on-crit, and I'm not providing feedback or a suggestion; it's a plain question about game mechanics. Namely, is there currently, or was there historically, a mechanical reason the crit roll occurs per action?

Is it just a design decision? Does it have something to do with how targets get an evasion check against crits? Is it significantly less calculation for the server? Am I mistaken about crit being an exception to the rule, and it's actually standard for procs (e.g. chance to bleed, chance to deal double damage) to roll per action?


It is not standard, whereby Crit and charge generation are the ones being different. Frenzy and Power Charge on Crit giving just one charge per skill use. However, some items like Voll's Protector can give multiple power charges per skill use. The wording on this chestpiece says it is different than PCoC.
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Last edited by Nervyr#5055 on Dec 4, 2020, 6:41:04 PM
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Gravolt wrote:
Do Thief's Trinkets affect Grand Heists as well? They say "Heists" which is a bit unintuitive. Like there are Grand Heists(using blueprints) and (simple) Heists (using contracts)


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