Mechanical Questions Thread

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DER_PSYCHOPATH wrote:

Here is a comment of Mark explaining the mechanics for reference.

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Polymila wrote:

Hello i have a question about crits and ignite. On the crit page of the wiki (https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Critical_strike) it says:

"Ailments have a base 150% multiplier when applied by a critical strike. The only way to increase the critical strike multiplier on ailments is with the Perfect Agony keystone."

If I remember correctly that info was also on the ignite page, but it's not anymore. I searched a bit but I couldn't find any source for this (like patch notes, for example). However, on the "Damage Over Time Changes - Part 2" manifesto (https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1894471/page/1) it says:

"Your Critical Damage Multiplier will now not influence Poison, Bleeding and Ignite damage, as a result of these ailments no longer being based on the final damage of your hit. Instead, players and monsters now have a property called Damage Multiplier for Ailments from Critical Strikes, which boosts the damage of Ignite, Poison and Bleed caused by critical strikes."

Which alludes to the existence of this 150% multiplier, but nothing concrete. Also, on the 3.8 patch notes it says:

"Perfect Agony now causes modifiers to Critical Strike Multiplier to apply to Damage over Time Multiplier for Ailments from Critical Strikes at 50% of their value, rather than 30% previously. This is now additive with other sources of Damage over Time multiplier, however."

And that doesn't seem to have changed since. One other thing are the clusters for Searing Heat and Dire Torment, which gives:

"+x% to Damage over Time Multiplier for Ignite/Ailments from Critical Strikes"

Now my questions are: Is there really an inherent multiplier for ignites applied by crits? Then, which of these multipliers (150% from crit, crit multi + Perfect Agony, +x% to Damage over Time Multiplier for Ignite/Ailments from Critical Strikes) are addtive with "+x% to Damage over Time Multiplier" and which (if any) are multiplicative? If more than one is multiplicative, are they additive between themselves?

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You have an inherent "+50% damage over time multiplier for ailments from critical strikes". This stat stacks additively with other applicable sources of damage over time multiplier. It is not exclusively gained from Perfect Agony either, but is available from the Dire Torment cluster between Witch and Shadow and as well as some cluster jewel notables.