[2.6] The Curse Whisperer - Tri-Curse CI Whispering Ice Elementalist - Viable for Everything

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Sisaroth wrote:

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Windgaming wrote:

1) AoF says we do NOT do non-fire damage, nothing to be converted.

That doesn't make sense. Obviously conversion happens first, then remaining non-fire damage is set to zero, otherwise it wouldn't work with cold to fire.

Ok, sounds reasonable. But anyway OoS damage is absolutely insignificant for this build (coming back to the source of this discussion).

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_phlv_ wrote:

Question: What is a reason to keep Leap Slam if you kicked out Fortify in favor of Vigillant Strike? Isn't better Flame Dash?

Yes. Leap Slam has better distance and doesn't require an obstacle-free direct line. Technically, nothing stops you from using Lightning Warp for teleporting almost anywhere on the screen (very useful in the Lab), and it would trigger Mastermind as well, but we use extended duration and can't give LW any support, so it's ridiculously slow.

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Kelvynn wrote:

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_phlv_ wrote:

Question: What is a reason to keep Leap Slam if you kicked out Fortify in favor of Vigillant Strike? Isn't better Flame Dash?

Yes. Leap Slam has better distance and doesn't require an obstacle-free direct line. Technically, nothing stops you from using Lightning Warp for teleporting almost anywhere on the screen (very useful in the Lab), and it would trigger Mastermind as well, but we use extended duration and can't give LW any support, so it's ridiculously slow.

Kelvynn man, first of all, let me say I am enjoying your build very much.

However, I am having some very quick deaths in some places you seem to be facetanking happily on the videos (like Chimera, Phoenix - you sit on the discharge while I die if he is in my screen somewhere)

So my profile is open, could you please have a look and tell me what it is I am doing wrong?

I had a question: I'm level 69 now, and I have all the nodes sorted so far, but as far as the travel down to diamond skin and the jewel node there, did you just add the str nodes as you got the points? My first two spare went into faith and steel as my resists needed a little boost, and can happily respec if needed, but 8 nodes of str without conversion seems a little wasted, would I be better off going into some ES nodes and respeccing once I can get the second brute force solution?

Atm i'm kinda stuck, atziri/uber lab are no problem at all with this build. But minotaur (havent tried other guardians) can still 1 hit me with 8k es.
Anyone has some advice on what i can improve? This is my gear;



I'm still trying to get the right colours on these gloves, but after 1000 chroms, still nothing:


Is it even possible to reach 10k es with this build?

Hi.

Could somebody help me take a look at my character and see what's next that I can improve on.
Somehow my tooltip damage is still at 5k+ and my intel is 1630 and ES of 8443

Or could it just be all I need are levels cause I'm still lvl 79?

Thanks a dozen!!!


This my gear

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Grimstarz wrote:

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Atm i'm kinda stuck, atziri/uber lab are no problem at all with this build. But minotaur (havent tried other guardians) can still 1 hit me with 8k es.
Anyone has some advice on what i can improve? This is my gear;

I'm still trying to get the right colours on these gloves, but after 1000 chroms, still nothing:

Is it even possible to reach 10k es with this build?

10k is very easy. surpassing 12k is where things get difficult.

your issues with minotaur dont sound like a gear problem, they sound like you dont play the fight right. sometimes, he initiates his burrow slam as soon as you enter his line of sight. in that case, you have no chance of having fortify or your enfeeble up before his slam hits you. so the easiest approach is to dodge his first burrow slam if the map has damage mods or if you have a relatively low ES like 8k. having a granite and a basalt up for his first telegraphed attack is obvious, but you can also try to add a topaz flask into the mix since mino has phys to lightning conversion and thus deals a significant chunk of his damage as lightning.

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kissmys1983 wrote:

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Hi.

Could somebody help me take a look at my character and see what's next that I can improve on.
Somehow my tooltip damage is still at 5k+ and my intel is 1630 and ES of 8443

Or could it just be all I need are levels cause I'm still lvl 79?

Thanks a dozen!!!


This my gear

your gear is perfectly fine, you are mostly lacking levels.

guys, in general, please include your gems and jewels when you post your gear and ask for advice. gem level and quality as well as jewels are a huge part of this build's damage.

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Black_Gun wrote:

10k is very easy. surpassing 12k is where things get difficult.

Well this is kinda my problem atm, i'm having a hard time going over 8k es



- Getting a body armor with 770+ es and 50+ int would cost around 14 ex with only 1 resist
- Boots with 170+ es and 50+ int (without movement speed, and 2x res), 4 ex
- Gloves with 170+ es and 50+ int (2x res), 3-5 ex
(edit: just got these for 2ex)
- Crystal belt with 120+ es and 50+ int, is priceless



Either i'm doing something wrong with my gear, or it's not as easy as u say getting over 10k es.

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Grimstarz wrote:

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Black_Gun wrote:

10k is very easy. surpassing 12k is where things get difficult.

Well this is kinda my problem atm, i'm having a hard time going over 8k es

- Getting a body armor with 770+ es and 50+ int would cost around 14 ex with only 1 resist
- Boots with 170+ es and 50+ int (without movement speed, and 2x res), 4 ex
- Gloves with 170+ es and 50+ int (2x res), 3-5 ex
(edit: just got these for 2ex)

- Crystal belt with 120+ es and 50+ int, is priceless



Either i'm doing something wrong with my gear, or it's not as easy as u say getting over 10k es.

well, if finding 4ex for a significant upgrade is a big hurdle to you, you either play too little or too inefficiently. by just mapping, I can farm a profit of something like 50-100c an hour. ofc on average.

your chest is not top priority imho, but something like 780ish ES with 48+ int shouldnt be thaaat hard to find. your gloves are very weak. abysmal int, and rather low ES. your boots are fine for now. belt is ok too. your astramentis might be worth one or two divines.

whats your level? levels mean more int, which means more ES. ;)

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well, if finding 4ex for a significant upgrade is a big hurdle to you, you either play too little or too inefficiently. by just mapping, I can farm a profit of something like 50-100c an hour. ofc on average.

I like this kind of talk. "I can do 80c in avg per hour".