[2.6] The Curse Whisperer - Tri-Curse CI Whispering Ice Elementalist - Viable for Everything

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intre wrote:

You don't get +69 res to fire or +69 res to cold or +69 res to lightning. You get 27 to fire, 27 to lightning and 15 to cold. With Kraityn you get +10 to cold, +10 to fire and +10 to lightning, they don't add.

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chinz wrote:

Yes, but fire, cold and lightning are all equally valuable. So +10 all resistances is equally valuable to +30 <one element> resistance.

Not getting +10 all resistances for one point, but then getting 27+27+15 of individual resistances for three points just doesn't seem to make much sense from point efficiency point of view.


You can defend DS by saying that only +10 all from Kraityn isn't quite enough with specific gear so you'd have to go DS anyway even with Kraityn and choosing cold/lightning also gives a tiny bit of gearing flexibility, but completely dismissing the normal Kraityn option and even saying "Skill points are far too valuable" and yet taking three 23.3% less efficient points seems weird.

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intre wrote:

No, they are not equally valuable. In example, let's say your resistances are 75/75/76 in merciless. They are not equally valuable as 65/65/96, you would be getting way more damage in this last case even though the sum is the same.

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I don't defend anything, everyone has different gear so you have to check what works for you. If your resistances are 75/65/70 and with that Kaitryn reward you can cap it, instead of using 2 tree nodes to cap these res, of course it's more efficient. But you can buy or drop gear enough to cap it, and you would be wasting 20 regrets instead of 2 or 3 to use these points in another place.

There's also another point. You might want to go way overcapped to deal with Elemental Weakness maps.

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Majin111 wrote:

this has to be calced but its not that easy ..
Cold to fire should give a % dmg increase before the other Damage increases so its a pretty strong multiplier.

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intre wrote:

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Majin111 wrote:

this has to be calced but its not that easy ..
Cold to fire should give a % dmg increase before the other Damage increases so its a pretty strong multiplier.

As easy as respec Avatar of Fire node and put Pyre and Controlled Destruction instead of Cold to Fire gem. I did it and get the same damage, plus getting 2 resists and extra bonus of the ring. I wanted to be tested by someone else just in case they get different results.

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Black_Gun wrote:

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intre wrote:

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Majin111 wrote:

this has to be calced but its not that easy ..
Cold to fire should give a % dmg increase before the other Damage increases so its a pretty strong multiplier.

As easy as respec Avatar of Fire node and put Pyre and Controlled Destruction instead of Cold to Fire gem. I did it and get the same damage, plus getting 2 resists and extra bonus of the ring. I wanted to be tested by someone else just in case they get different results.

im using a dual curse setup with two perandus signet rings. if i was playing the elementalist version of this build, it would be pretty much exactly the same damage with pyre and cd, but would get two additional res on the pyre ring and would free up 1-2 passive points.

would be cool if others could also try this, it seems like a good idea. in particular, it would make the build even cheaper! :D

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Ziiyo wrote:

Losing one Perandus ring gives you a crap load of ES + INT + DMG. All you are doing is saving some points for resist. It is a good idea but I dont think the trade off it good.