[2.6] The Curse Whisperer - Tri-Curse CI Whispering Ice Elementalist - Viable for Everything

@Black_Gun @Kelvynn Just now I realized that we can cast 2 Golems at the same time because of "Liege of the Primordial". I'm playing the build as a Necromancer until the reset.
Thanks again, guys.

How do people think this build will hold up with the clear rate for the new league?

I understand this does lots of damage. How is it for clearing, will this build hold up pretty well for the clearing, movement speed needed for breach?

Im basically debating between this and flameblast. I like how tanky this build is but am unsure of it's clear speed.

I'm considering using this as a starter build for my SO in breach league (she's also never played POE), but worried that I need to get a whispering Ice at lvl 33 and CI becomes too confusing. My preference would be to progress through the game as firestorm and than respec (my understanding is that firestorm can't do all bosses). Is there a way to level as firestorm and respec to tri-curse? I'm likely running blade vortex myself.

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mrutomi wrote:

I'm considering using this as a starter build for my SO in breach league (she's also never played POE), but worried that I need to get a whispering Ice at lvl 33 and CI becomes too confusing. My preference would be to progress through the game as firestorm and than respec (my understanding is that firestorm can't do all bosses). Is there a way to level as firestorm and respec to tri-curse? I'm likely running blade vortex myself.

If you follow the guide you will be just fine. Spec into CI early like the guide says, it works very well I was surprised myself.

I suspect she may want to play self-found for the first run-through. If we play self-found, is this build still viable since there's no guarantee I'd pick up a whispering. Any way this can be played as a firestorm then respec into this so end game content can be beat?

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Incorrect! When CWDT triggers, it casts both golems at the same time. You don't need to self-cast them.

didnt you discuss the issue of this some 100 pages ago? afaik you said that having both golems on cwdt would too often mess up the order, ending up with 2 golems of the same kind instead of one each?

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mrutomi wrote:

I suspect she may want to play self-found for the first run-through. If we play self-found, is this build still viable since there's no guarantee I'd pick up a whispering. Any way this can be played as a firestorm then respec into this so end game content can be beat?

the build is very strong selffound IF you get a Whispering Ice. so if you and your SO are willing to make one exception from the rule, I'd go for this build. however, if you insist on being strict with going selffound, I wouldnt recommend it. yes, it is possible to farm a WI either via prophecies or div cards, but its a total pain in the ass and RNG can fuck you over big time when you try that.

The guide has been updated for 2.5.

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laxcrazy wrote:

How do people think this build will hold up with the clear rate for the new league?

I understand this does lots of damage. How is it for clearing, will this build hold up pretty well for the clearing, movement speed needed for breach?

Im basically debating between this and flameblast. I like how tanky this build is but am unsure of it's clear speed.

Hmm... this is the second time somebody asks that before the league has even started. Am I missing something? Is there a way to test the Breach before it's released? Or how is anybody supposed to know the answer to this question already??

Clear speed was never a goal here, so it may not be as fast as bow builds. But it's not slower than flameblast.

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Black_Gun wrote:

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Incorrect! When CWDT triggers, it casts both golems at the same time. You don't need to self-cast them.

didnt you discuss the issue of this some 100 pages ago? afaik you said that having both golems on cwdt would too often mess up the order, ending up with 2 golems of the same kind instead of one each?

That was my initial assertion before the patch 2.3 actually happened and the current version of Liege went live. It was wrong, and I corrected it as soon as I saw how it actually works.

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Kelvynn wrote:

Hmm... this is the second time somebody asks that before the league has even started. Am I missing something? Is there a way to test the Breach before it's released? Or how is anybody supposed to know the answer to this question already??

Just curious on how people think it will do with what we know about breach ATM.

I think I will be playing this char anyways. It very well put together.

Is this build still viable for uber atziri / shaper? I just got back into poe and the last uber atziri kill vid was in 2.3 so I'm not sure what changed.

Thanks in advance

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laxcrazy wrote:

Just curious on how people think it will do with what we know about breach ATM.

I expect it to do just fine. ZiggyD's video shows him clearing trash fast enough to prevent the timer from expiring, with a golem summoner. This build is faster than that. GGG mentioned that you get more loot from the boss the more damage you do to him. We may not be able to compete for raw DPS with crit builds that use Skyforth, but this build definitely does a lot more actual DPS than Flameblast.

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itisknown322 wrote:

Is this build still viable for uber atziri / shaper? I just got back into poe and the last uber atziri kill vid was in 2.3 so I'm not sure what changed.

Thanks in advance

Viable for all targets and all mods.

Absolutely nothing changed about Uber Atziri since 2.3. Although I have an idea how to cheese her even more.

I don't see any mentions of the Shaper in the 2.5 patch notes, so he should be the same as in 2.4.1. The last change there was when they made him use Teleport Slam in melee range, and I added a video for that.