[2.6] The Curse Whisperer - Tri-Curse CI Whispering Ice Elementalist - Viable for Everything

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SaintLucifer wrote:

Been trying for like weeks to upgrade my gear with no success, so i was wondering, would any of the other 2 variants be able to reach end game with really crappy gear instead? So far i can't even reliable do tier 10 maps with what i have on my witch version, so would like to know if the others are more durable please.

This is the gear i have so far:

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331 ES chest? Eep! Are you playing self-found? This build is not good for self-found, unless you craft everything yourself, or something. You can easily find better items on poe.trade for cheap. See a post 2 pages above that even has a link for chest armor search. All versions of the build require at least 20-30 chaos orbs to get to the red maps, and at least 5-6 exalts to proceed into T16 (with current prices). You can start farming Uber Lab with probably 50c worth of gear, and that'll get you the currency to proceed from there.

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MrGuardian wrote:

only 50 int tops, which is only 5%pcnt spell dmg from 1 jewel? Or i understand it wrong?

For raw DPS, 10 Int is about the same as 8-9% increased damage. But since you also get ES from Int, we consider X Int better than X inc dmg.

Write down your Icestorm tooltip and your ES with 1 empty socket.
Insert a simple 1-mod jewel that has only Int and look how your DPS and ES changes.
Insert a simple 1-mod jewel that has only dmg and look how your DPS changes.
Compare.

It's not linear because Int takes effect in the increments of 10. But you can get the idea.

Is there a place for Vaal Discipline in the build?

this build only needs a 5link 6slots chest right? since arctic armor doesnt benefit from anything.

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Kelvynn wrote:

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SaintLucifer wrote:

Been trying for like weeks to upgrade my gear with no success, so i was wondering, would any of the other 2 variants be able to reach end game with really crappy gear instead? So far i can't even reliable do tier 10 maps with what i have on my witch version, so would like to know if the others are more durable please.

This is the gear i have so far:

Spoiler

331 ES chest? Eep! Are you playing self-found? This build is not good for self-found, unless you craft everything yourself, or something. You can easily find better items on poe.trade for cheap. See a post 2 pages above that even has a link for chest armor search. All versions of the build require at least 20-30 chaos orbs to get to the red maps, and at least 5-6 exalts to proceed into T16 (with current prices). You can start farming Uber Lab with probably 50c worth of gear, and that'll get you the currency to proceed from there.

Saw that post, tried contacting the first 10 or so people on it, they were all either gone from the league (since this is the last month) or 24/7 afk for some reason (price fixers?). After that point the prices just started going too insane for me, like 120 ex and over. So yeah, so far i'm playing self found. Gotta love the "Pleasing social interaction and trade experience" you get when using poe.trade.

Did you tried to play with Avatar of Fire and Cold to fire gem and switch to another ring? worth the loss of one supp gems?

dude, DUDE! ... zerker, CI, ZO, ghost reaver, potential for going crit with flask+crit gem support at ~lvl92. sure, int is also a suffix but it's not much of a hindrance.

leech on ascendancy, stun immune on ascendancy, 40% more dmg on ascendancy. that's the meta.

rough planner:

too bad savage hit does not work with es, only life :)

Hi.
Is it ok to have quality on CWDT lv1 and Ball Lightning lv4?

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ScottEvill wrote:

Hi.
Is it ok to have quality on CWDT lv1 and Ball Lightning lv4?

Yeah you can have quality on it, it will not affect the level of the gems and so don't affect the trigger conditions.

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Millennium wrote:

Is there a place for Vaal Discipline in the build?

Not in the main setup. You don't need it either. But for the several top bosses where Purity is used (see Boss Guide) and curses are applied via the Orb, you have 2 free sockets that can be used for Vaal Disc. Example: the Shaper.

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noobstaa wrote:

Did you tried to play with Avatar of Fire and Cold to fire gem and switch to another ring? worth the loss of one supp gems?

AoF+CtF+Perandus Signet was the starting point of this whole build and is still used in the Scion version. But it only works with very high Int. I'm not sure where exactly the threshold is, somewhere around 1800 Int probably. If you have that much Int AND can max your resists without Pyre then you can get more DPS/ES with AoF+CtF+Perandus. Otherwise (which is the case for the non-Scion versions with non-godly gear) Pyre+CD+2 points works better.