[2.6] The Curse Whisperer - Tri-Curse CI Whispering Ice Elementalist - Viable for Everything
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PetuSchokk wrote:
Hmm can not chose between Witch version of it and Templar version. Which one tankier and what about the dps? Never played as Whispering Ice tho. So dunno which one to chose..
Also how much i need ES for tackling the High tier maps, Guardians and Shaper
I have another question to the author of the build - do you run with all three auras on?
My mana and Enlighten lvl 2 (+1 from helmet) allow me to run Discipline, WM and Arctic Armor, leaving enough mana for 2 casts of the main attack skill (or one if I switch to the concentrated gem).
I feel reluctant to ever switch off Discipline (as it gives me 2200+ ES), but switching on AA seems a little taxing for some situations when you need to pre-spam main attack.
What is your approach?
In your video of 2.4 witch vs 2x Rigwald, you have all 3 auras on. Do you always do that when farming less dangerous maps?
I always run with Disc+WM+AA except for the special setups where WM is replaced by a Purity. Having mana for 1 cast of Icestorm with CE or 2 casts with IR is perfectly fine while leveling Enlighten. In the Templar version there is a video of farming Uber Lab like that. I did everything except T16/Shaper in this league before my Enlighten was lv 3.
Pre-spamming Icestorm? 1-2 casts is fine for the strongboxes and essences. You don't need more than that. In less dangerous maps there is even less reason to pre-cast Icestorm.
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PetuSchokk wrote:
Hmm can not chose between Witch version of it and Templar version. Which one tankier and what about the dps? Never played as Whispering Ice tho. So dunno which one to chose..
If you have not played a WI build before - start with the Witch. It's the easiest one to play.
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PetuSchokk wrote:
Also how much i need ES for tackling the High tier maps, Guardians and Shaper
ES is not the goal. The Shaper can be done with 5k ES as seen in my video. Extra ES just gives you more margin for error. I have never played the Guardians without tons of mods, but I suspect that they all can be done with 5k ES if the map is white or blue. If you want to farm endgame maps with lots of mods (I always roll 90+ IIQ and pack size) then I recommend 8k ES or more.
What matters is Int and DPS. I would strongly recommend 1500 Int or better for T16/Shaper. Keep in mind that this build scales with level all the way to 100. If you don't have 1500 Int at lv 87 it doesn't mean you won't at lv 92 (which is the recommended level for doing the Shaper, and the tree for it is in the guide).
And of course 20+/20 gems. DPS is very important because it's your leech too.
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blajo wrote:
HI Whispering Ice maniacs ;p
My current gear on ESC
Videos (only one for now i have low uploaded speed) Uber Lab Run
Damn, that's some sweet stuff! :)
However: if you replace Foresight and Faith & Steel with the jewel socket below Ghost Reaver, you will gain more than you lose (remember, DPS is always better than ES).
Also, is that ring really better than Perandus Signet? Or an Opal ring with similar stats?
Last edited by Kelvynn#6607 on Oct 16, 2016, 10:49:44 PM
However: if you replace Foresight and Faith & Steel with the jewel socket below Ghost Reaver, you will gain more than you lose (remember, DPS is always better than ES).
Also, is that ring really better than Perandus Signet? Or an Opal ring with similar stats?
You were right :)
you are the master of this build ;p
swapped this rare ring to perandus signet
and swapped Foresight and Faith & Steel to this socket jewel. I put another Izaro's Turmoil (but not perfect this time "only" 23/22 roll)
i lose 1k ES and got 2k DPS more full buffed
but now worried on my resist
in ths rare ring i was immunite to elemental weaknes on red maps :P
and now my resist is only
75% (77) !!
75% (97)
75% (93)
ele weaknes on red map is -34 resist
in this configutaion with perandus signet is only
Fire 43%
Cold 63%
Light 59%
i try play this configuration for some time for testing survi :P
PS
Izaro's Turmoil will be better than any rare jewel ? mayby i must searching for best rare jewel ? :]
but now worried on my resist
in ths rare ring i was immunite to elemental weaknes on red maps :P
and now my resist is only
75% (77) !!
75% (97)
75% (93)
ele weaknes on red map is -34 resist
in this configutaion with perandus signet is only
Fire 43%
Cold 63%
Light 59%
i try play this configuration for some time for testing survi :P
PS
Izaro's Turmoil will be better than any rare jewel ? mayby i must searching for best rare jewel ? :]
Trading ES for DPS is very worth it even at 1:1 ratio, and you got 2k Icestorm for 1k ES even with a mediocre Izaro's.
Izaro's Turmoil is not BiS, it's just the most accessible good jewel. I recently added a note how to evaluate rare jewels to the Gear-Jewels section. And if you are willing to pay to the people monopolizing Uber Lab, that thing is the actual BiS.
Overcapping resists is not necessary at all. None of the trash, nor most of the bosses in any tier maps can really hurt you even with EW-maxres. For those few bosses that can there are flasks or the Purity aura setup.
but now worried on my resist
in ths rare ring i was immunite to elemental weaknes on red maps :P
and now my resist is only
75% (77) !!
75% (97)
75% (93)
ele weaknes on red map is -34 resist
in this configutaion with perandus signet is only
Fire 43%
Cold 63%
Light 59%
i try play this configuration for some time for testing survi :P
PS
Izaro's Turmoil will be better than any rare jewel ? mayby i must searching for best rare jewel ? :]
Trading ES for DPS is very worth it even at 1:1 ratio, and you got 2k Icestorm for 1k ES even with a mediocre Izaro's.
Izaro's Turmoil is not BiS, it's just the most accessible good jewel. I recently added a note how to evaluate rare jewels to the Gear-Jewels section. And if you are willing to pay to the people monopolizing Uber Lab, that thing is the actual BiS.
Overcapping resists is not necessary at all. None of the trash, nor most of the bosses in any tier maps can really hurt you even with EW-maxres. For those few bosses that can there are flasks or the Purity aura setup.
However: if you replace Foresight and Faith & Steel with the jewel socket below Ghost Reaver, you will gain more than you lose (remember, DPS is always better than ES).
Also, is that ring really better than Perandus Signet? Or an Opal ring with similar stats?
You were right :)
you are the master of this build ;p
swapped this rare ring to perandus signet
and swapped Foresight and Faith & Steel to this socket jewel. I put another Izaro's Turmoil (but not perfect this time "only" 23/22 roll)
i lose 1k ES and got 2k DPS more full buffed
but now worried on my resist
in ths rare ring i was immunite to elemental weaknes on red maps :P
and now my resist is only
75% (77) !!
75% (97)
75% (93)
ele weaknes on red map is -34 resist
in this configutaion with perandus signet is only
Fire 43%
Cold 63%
Light 59%
i try play this configuration for some time for testing survi :P
PS
Izaro's Turmoil will be better than any rare jewel ? mayby i must searching for best rare jewel ? :]
those are some impressive stats and gear. whats your cast time on icestorm if I may ask?
However: if you replace Foresight and Faith & Steel with the jewel socket below Ghost Reaver, you will gain more than you lose (remember, DPS is always better than ES).
Also, is that ring really better than Perandus Signet? Or an Opal ring with similar stats?
You were right :)
you are the master of this build ;p
swapped this rare ring to perandus signet
and swapped Foresight and Faith & Steel to this socket jewel. I put another Izaro's Turmoil (but not perfect this time "only" 23/22 roll)
i lose 1k ES and got 2k DPS more full buffed
but now worried on my resist
in ths rare ring i was immunite to elemental weaknes on red maps :P
and now my resist is only
75% (77) !!
75% (97)
75% (93)
ele weaknes on red map is -34 resist
in this configutaion with perandus signet is only
Fire 43%
Cold 63%
Light 59%
i try play this configuration for some time for testing survi :P
PS
Izaro's Turmoil will be better than any rare jewel ? mayby i must searching for best rare jewel ? :]
those are some impressive stats and gear. whats your cast time on icestorm if I may ask?
hi
Cat Per Secound: 2.67
btw i replace my secound Turmoil for rare jew with this stats
16 int
15% fire dmg
11% area dmg
and i got same DPS but more INT (1775 -> 1800) and little more ES (about 100)
Hi, thanks for posting this awesome build. I'm only 88 but able to do all maps except t16 and shaper (just haven't tried them yet).
Also im thinking of upgrading my gear. What u suggest for me to upgrade first?
I have 7k ES and almost 1500 int right now. Thats pretty good but looks like people here have much more :)
Sry if i made mistakes, English isn't my native language :)
Hi, thanks for posting this awesome build. I'm only 88 but able to do all maps except t16 and shaper (just haven't tried them yet).
Also im thinking of upgrading my gear. What u suggest for me to upgrade first?
I have 7k ES and almost 1500 int right now. Thats pretty good but looks like people here have much more :)
Sry if i made mistakes, English isn't my native language :)
- If you want to do T16 you want 3 curses (get Doedre's Damning).
- Get a better rare cobalt jewel (see the Gear-Jewels section).
- Brute Forces are 18 and 20 Int, that's weak, find better.
- Black Sun Crest 11% is weak, should be 14-15%.
- Pyre can have 30% cold and 35% fire res. Find one with 35% fire and use Blessed to adjust cold.
- 33 Int on chest armor is weak, find 45 or more.
- Level to 92 and grab the jewel socket near GR.
