LiftingNerdBro Reveals Three New Unique Jewels!
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These can be used for chaos conversion too. Can probably reach higher chaos damage numbers than pre-nerf. Spell totem was boosted a bit as well. Reflect wont matter much then.
IMO these should have a limit of something like 4 or 5 per type. The mana one could get an upgrade then though. No wonder it's lost, it's in the middle of the jungle!
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So there's a multiplicative scaling now?
Uhm.... That's risky, GGG. I really hope that works out. Maybe have a limit of 5 per type, and then raise/lift it when it goes ok? Zaanus:
Global chat: Mechanics for A work one way, B for another, C for a third but also with A, B uses C but not A, and D uses A&B but not C ___ Isn't a "no" better than an ignore? |
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this is confusing. the wording on the jewel makes it sound like you just add the values of the jewels -grand spectrum- (15 mana x 5 grand spectrum jewels socketed=75 mana). but then the math throws an extra multiplier in. i understand that your mana % nodes and anything on gear will take effect. but i dont understand where his extra multiplier is coming from. (why total of that variant & then again total "grand spectrum". thats not what the wording on the jewel implies.) anyone who doesnt see this vid wont know bc the text doesnt make it clear. (not to mention it seems insanely op) if his math is wrong then the jewels seem like vendor trash or only useful for lvl 1-30 leveling. so whats going on?
Last edited by awave#0377 on May 30, 2016, 3:51:26 AM
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" I guess you mess something up. If you wear 5 jewels, each jewel would give 75 mana, what would end up in 375 mana. You forgot that you have first 5 jewels, what would be already 75 mana, but you dont get 15 mana each jewel, since you have 5 of them.. it's stacking a lot. For every following spectrum you're using, the effect of each jewel get's higher. It's like 5x 15 x 5 (5 jewel x 15 mana x 5 spectrums). Last edited by Toaster404#7147 on May 30, 2016, 4:03:23 AM
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" Hmm in my opinion the wording on the jewels is crystal clear, I had a pretty spot-on idea of what they are doing as soon as I read the text. If you have x jewels giving y*stat per jewel (ie giving y*stat * x) you get x * y*stat * x =x²*y stat (this is the simple case of having grand spectrums of only one colour) And please don't call that exponential growth (saw that in the thread), it's simple quadratic growth. Exponential growth is something completely different. Last edited by gonaldinho#3746 on May 30, 2016, 4:10:37 AM
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" Multiplyning colourful crystals isn't normal. On PoE it is. Math, not even once! I came here to drink milk and kick ass...and I've just finished my milk.
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" probably is a thing to not destroy completely the scion class, also, has interesting meccanics, like,you start to take jew and travel a lot for the tree, you get a lot of increase damage with jew slots, and then you start to keep nodes that usually you can't take, when i make a build, usually i'm very static in the tree, in that way i don't waste point to travel, but with this dinamic, is possible to trave and get a very unique build, aslo, armored ES witch, always welcome, or MoM marauder,lol |
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" in my opinion it works, i use a guardian, and reserving mana i get ES, the ES get also scaled with my base ES in fact i have basicaly 3.5k of mana, all reserved, and i have a lot of ES from there |
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" It works for you, beause the Guardian and Hierophant node works completely different. Also the nodes say completely different things: Grants maximum Energyshield equal to 15% of your reserved Mana. It should be crystal clear, that it gives energyshield for your reserved mana.. so it doesn't matter if you get your mana due to inc mana nodes or due to base mana. It just counts the reserved mana and gives "maximum" -> flat energyshield. The Hierophant nodes says, that it gives 25% of Maximum Mana as extra Energyshield. Mark of GGG: "You are mistaken. Energy Shield modifiers definitely do apply to the conveted mana->es. Like with all things that use the conversion mechanics, it's also affected by modifiers to what it was (mana) and additive modifiers to either of these things apply additively. It's affected by increased mana and by increased energy shield, but those things are additive modifiers and will apply additively with each other." Also there are dozens of topics about that wrong calculation of Sanctuary of Thought. |
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I don't really get what's so hard to understand about the math but perhaps this analogy would be easier to understand for some people:
Pretend you were fundraising and someone came up and said "I will give you $75 for every donor you get including myself" (I am a jewel that will grant this much whatever per number of this type of jewel you have) Others hear this and think it's a novel idea and promise the same thing. In the end you have ten people pledging 75 dollars for every donor including themselves. (10 jewels) Do you only get a 750 dollars? 10 people times $75? (10 jewels times 75 armour) No. You get 7500 dollars because each person said they would give 75 for each donor including themselves. 10 people pledging $75 per donor times 10 donors. Now let's mix it up, say you had it was a fundraiser for the homeless. 6 people say they don't have money but can donate 15 cans of food for every donor including themselves and 4 say they can donate 6 blankets per donor. That's 20 people distributed like this: 10@$75 = $750 6@15 cans = 90 cans 4@6 blankets = 24 blankets All per donor so you multiply it all by 20 |
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