When Chris says that lab haters are a minority, how right is he?

Yep. I'd sacrifice 10 levels from 40,50,60,70 to do it.

It's an interesting concept, but the traps ruin any fun I might have exploring. They are supposed to be movement puzzles, but with isometric PoV you literally cannot see what's ahead most of the time. Given that, it makes no sense to me why they would make traps do % of health damage.

They don't want to let people trivialize content, I get it. But when I've gimped myself by doing normal lab the first time at level 80, where the monsters literally cannot damage me, Izaro dies in 2 seconds, and I basically go through as fast as I can to get it over with, I've trivialized most of it anyway.

Pretty sure its racist to say lab haters are all minorities

shame on you Chris

In a room full of haters and word wizardry, logic is thrown out the window. That's what happened in this thread and pretty much every thread about the lab. There are always going to be people who love the lab and people who hate the lab, and GGG will never be able to please everyone. They can always compromise to appease the masses, but even a compromise will end up pissing off who knows how many other vocal gamers.

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cipher_nemo wrote:

In a room full of haters and word wizardry, logic is thrown out the window. That's what happened in this thread and pretty much every thread about the lab. There are always going to be people who love the lab and people who hate the lab, and GGG will never be able to please everyone. They can always compromise to appease the masses, but even a compromise will end up pissing off who knows how many other vocal gamers.

heres my compromise

just give those of us who hate the lab an alternate way to ascend!

there everyone is happy

Never true. There would be those complaining that their "accomplishment" was being lessened.

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Shagsbeard wrote:

Never true. There would be those complaining that their "accomplishment" was being lessened.

yeah and then we will whine about those who are complaining

then people will complain about those complaining about complaining

then something will get nerfed and we will all bitch about that lol


BUT!

my point stands that there should be an alternate path to ascendancy!

If a 2nd way for getting ascendancy points was added then the inevitable comparison would come up and the qq over one being easier than the other (why does everyone overlook/forget that we're talking about GGG and how they can't balance things well?). Then there are the lamers that will qq that both ways suck. Fortunately GGG is not replacing lab or adding a 2nd way so no worries there.

I do find it interesting (sometimes amusing) that the Labyrinth causes so much bipolar disorder.

Mathil just did a video about beta changes, and on the subject of lab he said; "No real changes, still sucks."

Seems to be the common opinion, lol.