[2.3] Bleeding/Poison EQ Gladiator -- Budget, Tanky, Reflect Proof! -- T15 Core Down!

A good point about the Blood Magic; I only got my Mana Leech recently so I totally forgot about it.

I'll keep Blood Rage in my CWDT setup for now; See how it works out for me later, if it's up in situations I don't want it I'll just level it up and manually turn it on, I play a lot of Rangers so not such a big deal.


Also, any recommendations about end-game chest? I'm using Belly because it's a pretty decent lower level Unique, and I could 5L it with the Prophecy in Prophecy League. There's a few options I can think of for end-game Chests I can work on 6Ling, but, not sure if any are "Best" or if it's all down to personal preference.

Edit:

Just went in and absolutely thrashed Merciless Lab, smoothest run I've ever done without already having Merci Ascendancy Points.

Also, I am totally sold on LGOH. Went to Library for a Prophecy, and I'm only 4 levels above the zone, I went through the entire thing without attacking. Was pretty fun watching the Unique kill itself.

Capped my block too, so I'll be going for the Frenzy Charge Uber Lab Points too. The stacking buffs from blocking in the other one would be great, but I'd be wasting the block points too. I have zero Endurance Charge generation (Unless I use Shield Charge instead of Leap Slam to get the 25% EC on OH-Kill) but I might be able to fit Enduring Cry in at some point.

this build is just ... i thought myself well got enough Offerings anyway why don't u just run Uber lab for giggles with lvl 71 and well .. did it with all buffs up :O even with my Bleed/Poison Tornado reach build it didnt went that smooth my current gear

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Zephryl wrote:

A good point about the Blood Magic; I only got my Mana Leech recently so I totally forgot about it.

I'll keep Blood Rage in my CWDT setup for now; See how it works out for me later, if it's up in situations I don't want it I'll just level it up and manually turn it on, I play a lot of Rangers so not such a big deal.


Also, any recommendations about end-game chest? I'm using Belly because it's a pretty decent lower level Unique, and I could 5L it with the Prophecy in Prophecy League. There's a few options I can think of for end-game Chests I can work on 6Ling, but, not sure if any are "Best" or if it's all down to personal preference.

Edit:

Just went in and absolutely thrashed Merciless Lab, smoothest run I've ever done without already having Merci Ascendancy Points.

Also, I am totally sold on LGOH. Went to Library for a Prophecy, and I'm only 4 levels above the zone, I went through the entire thing without attacking. Was pretty fun watching the Unique kill itself.

Capped my block too, so I'll be going for the Frenzy Charge Uber Lab Points too. The stacking buffs from blocking in the other one would be great, but I'd be wasting the block points too. I have zero Endurance Charge generation (Unless I use Shield Charge instead of Leap Slam to get the 25% EC on OH-Kill) but I might be able to fit Enduring Cry in at some point.

Well you can see my chest is pretty good but not amazing by any means.


I paid 3 ex for this during the first week of the league. This is the only and sole reason why I started armour based character this leagues - cheap 6link rares. This is based on my prediction that many people were going to play ES based characters from last league. Haha now the trend is a little bit reversed right? You can see the popularity of melee exploded.

So instead of getting a unique first and trying to 6link it, you have the option to do it the opposite way. It will cost you about 40-60 chaos for a white armour 6 link. You can chaos spam it until you get good armour and life. Or just buy a decent one for around 2-3 ex - totally manageable. Resists are good but you dont need tri-resists - since we use alot of rare gears we have plenty of room to make up for it. So in short, I think just any regular rare chest suits the build fine, there is no unique that is PERFECT for this build and 6link uniques are sooo expensive. I had no problem with my old 6link rare from lvl 80-94. All the currency I get is going to be saved for other builds since this build is cost-effective.

EDIT: The prices were from my memory about 10 days ago. Now the prices have gone up and there are lack of 6link armour chests in the market - probably from alot of people playing voidheart builds. So grab some while you can. Corrupted ones are super cheap tho - from Monstrous Treasures and Uber Izaro chests - so you still have a cheap option.

Last point - this build will not suffer any way if I were to use a 5link or 6link because there is no good 6th gem.. (fortify). So if you want to use a unique chest (or a really good rare chest) then it wont take much to 5link it too.

Endurying cry.. use it often and it will be second nature to you. I feel enduring cry is excellent when im running on low health and dashing thru the traps in Uber lab - the health regen is pretty good. But most importantly, eduring cry is a must for melee in dangerous maps and hard hitting unique bosses. Imagine when you have all the endurance charges up + Outmatch and Outlast = that is another fortify basically. I looove endurance charges so much - in ele weakness maps, your end charges will make up for the lost resistances too!

I use shield charge alot (like whirling blade) and with the "end charge on melee stun" gem I get full end charges pretty fast - it's effective until about T12 mob packs. After that the charge generation this way falls off somewhat but I still gain charges here and there.

So in short, fit in end cry somewhere in your gear. I used to slot it in a ring before.


And lastly, the blood rage - I cast it manually but you can link it to cwdt - your call. We won't be able to max level it due to our lack of dexterity.

Well, my variance has more Dex since I go up the right hand side of the tree so I probably could max out Blood Rage (Not that I really want to, it's mostly for the Frenzy Charges which is static)


I'll have to see if I can fit Enduring Cry in then, I think I might be able to once I've got enough Chromes to "Perfect Colour" my gear (Or if I get a 6S5L chest, as my current one is just 5L since I used Jeweller's Touch).

I might go for a Unique, I'm already overcapped on Resists and I'm a bit low on funds from my previous gear upgrade anyway. My current chest will last me a long time anyway, so I can pick up the Unique I want and slowly work away at it.


I love Endurance Charges too, but I was raised in the days of CWDT-EC and was never able to adjust well to having to actually cast it myself haha.

But with everything else, besides Fortify on Movement, being automated I can probably get into the habit of hitting the EC key.

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Zephryl wrote:

Well, my variance has more Dex since I go up the right hand side of the tree so I probably could max out Blood Rage (Not that I really want to, it's mostly for the Frenzy Charges which is static)


I'll have to see if I can fit Enduring Cry in then, I think I might be able to once I've got enough Chromes to "Perfect Colour" my gear (Or if I get a 6S5L chest, as my current one is just 5L since I used Jeweller's Touch).

I might go for a Unique, I'm already overcapped on Resists and I'm a bit low on funds from my previous gear upgrade anyway. My current chest will last me a long time anyway, so I can pick up the Unique I want and slowly work away at it.


I love Endurance Charges too, but I was raised in the days of CWDT-EC and was never able to adjust well to having to actually cast it myself haha.

But with everything else, besides Fortify on Movement, being automated I can probably get into the habit of hitting the EC key.

since u are block capped u might aswell go with endurance charge on melee stun linked to riposte and reckonig its not that effective as casting it manuelly since well u have to block first for charges but its better to generate charges passivly than no charges at all :D

I'll consider that~ It may be decided entirely by how my stuff ends up being coloured. A lot of off-colour stuff I need, since not all my gear is pure str.


I was inspired by the Uber clear to try it myself... Level 71, hit level 72 inside...

So I have an almost perfect breath of the council sceptre. I 3L'd it with colors I need, got it to 20q and then yolo vaal'd it. I got turns 20% phys into lightning damage. Did I just fuck myself by 20%?

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broseidon07 wrote:

So I have an almost perfect breath of the council sceptre. I 3L'd it with colors I need, got it to 20q and then yolo vaal'd it. I got turns 20% phys into lightning damage. Did I just fuck myself by 20%?

If my memory is right; Your Bleeds/Poisons will do 20% less, but the damage boost they receive from +Phys stuff will remain the same.

So, complicated math, it'll probably be less than 20% you screwed yourself by... but, yeah, I think you did get screwed. Unless you can now reliably shock with EQ itself?

come to think of it....2 or 3 of my jewels have shock chance, lol.

I mean i use vaal lightning trap anyway, so it's kind of pointless.

sigh.

damnit.

i HATE THIS GAME

I am currently ranked #30 with Gladiator on PHC. I'm using dual curses and Grace Aura with corrupted anvil and Essence Worm. 78% Block/Spell Block with Flask and can pretty much AFK in T13 maps with a train of creeps on me thanks to Aegis Aurora. I can only take damage from one hit wonders which are easily avoided. I really love this build. Enemies die in one hit and bosses don't take long. I'd say the only thing a Juggernaut has over this is grouped clear speed. Gearing can be annoying as you need your resist, life, Dex, and Int to come from your armor pieces. I'm also playing in Japan (no server) with a constant 100+ms ping on a laptop with a travelling mouse (I can probably fit 3 in my hands and still completely cover them).

Anyways, here is my gear.