[2.2]Chaos Kinetic Blast
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March 26th 2016 ,started to write for my memo and friends.
Mayl 1st 2016 last updated. This page is not build guide,but was my memo in the past.It was moved from showcase by GGG. I had intended to write up this objectively as possible I can,including the sides of good and bad ,some idea and some solution by my experience. I am still trial and error.Therefore this page is not perfect build. このページは元々ガイドではなくショーケースでしたが、GGGにより移動させられました。 私はできるだけ経験に基づいて、客観的にこれをかぎあげたつもりです。良いところ悪いところ、アイディア、解決策などを含めて。 私は今も試行錯誤を続けています。それゆえにこのページのビルドは未完成です。 If you have any question or advice,please whisper in game ,reply in this thread, or in twitter. I can maybe reply them with Japanese Language or poor English. もしなにか質問もしくは提案があればゲーム内かこちらのスレッドかtwitterで聞いてください。 下手な英語か日本語でたぶんお答えできます。 My IGN:kongari_girl twitter:@neff_wp
About this build このビルドについて
kinetic blast based on chaos damage and poison. It's not related,I love Kinetic Blast,LightningStrike and Chinsol. Relatively easy to handle and cheap. I play as Pathfinder or Deadeye,but you can take champion or occulist. カオスダメージとポイズンに着眼したビルドです。比較的扱いやすくコストも安いです。 関係ないけど私はkinetic blast,LightningStrike , Chinsolとかが大好きです。 私はPathfinderとかDeadeyeで遊んでますが、championとかocculistでもいいとおもいます。 Most important things are how to deal with poison and defence. 一番重要なことは如何にしてポイズンを扱うかというのと防御面です。 1,exp farming 経験値稼ぎ I don't check exp per hours on each level,but relatively fast.I think. 厳密にチェックしてないですが、比較的早いと思われます 1-1,DPS 火力 The numbers which Tooltips shows is not important. If Tooltips shows 20,000, it is enough. If Tooltips shows 40,000, it is beast. Because KB is what KB is , and it has poison. ゲーム内のDPS表記はそんな重要じゃないです。 2万もあれば十分ですし、4万もあれば悪魔です。 KBっていうのはそういうスキルっていうのと、ポイズンもあるからです。 1-2,range 範囲 very wide range.And you can kill general mobbing so much quickly. And also with poison,you can kill boss quickly. About detail,please check videos. かなり広いです。普通の雑魚はわりと早く倒せます。 ポイズンがありますので、ボスも早く倒せます。詳しくは後の動画をチェックしてください。 1-3,Efficiency on MagicFinder . maps MF効率 / maps I have never tried this build with MF gears.I tried High IIQ/IIR map. I checked that there are few problems with High IIQ/IIR map.I could clear the maps so much fast. if I were to say,maps with Vulnerability is a bit dangerous. With others mod,I could clear the maps , maybe. MF装備をつけてまでは試していませんが、高Quantity,Rarity、いわゆる難易度高めのマップは挑戦しました。 問題らしい問題はほぼありませんでした。わりとmapsは早くクリアできます。 しいて言うならVulnerabilityのついてるマップは危ないです。 他のmodについてはたぶん問題なかったです。 1-4,Defence 防御力 If you play as pathfinder,you must pay attention to Defence so much. Because,in general,Ranged character does not have Fortify buff. もしあなたがpathfinderクラスを選択するのであれば、防御をある程度意識しないといけません。 一般的に遠距離キャラというのはFortifyのバフをもたないからです。 Solition ・Curse ・Grace ・Life ・Endurance Charge ・LightningCoil / Daresso(for physical) ・Flask(for physical or elemental) ・Saffell's Frame(for elemental) As another solution,You can take Champion class. また別の解決策としては、Championクラスを選ぶというのもあります。 2,How difficult is playing this build? 実現しやすさ Not so much hard.Until lv69(crown of eyes),you may feel headache. On leveling,you can take ele KB , physical KB or others skills.(I enjoyed Obliteration) Cost on Gears is not expensive.Don't wotty. そんなに難しくはないです。Crown of eyesを装備できるlv69まではちょっとしんどいかもしれません。 道中においてはele KB,physical KB,他のスキルを使っても問題ないです。私はObliterationで遊んでました。 装備は高くないです。心配しないでください。 2-1,How difficult to get gears?装備の入手しやすさ ・Core items 絶対必要 Crown of Eyes , Add Chaos gem , any wand(Obliteration , physical/chaos wand) ・Maybe needed 多分必要 (ES gain +3 jewel) * 2 ・optional(not necessary) Atziri's acuity , shadow and dust 2-2,future prospect将来性 Chaos damage cant be reflected.You will not be getting annoyed by reflect. You can get more DPS with some factors,like projectile damage,chaos damage and spell damage(by crown of eyes),therefore you can upgrade gear and jewel for relatively cheap. カオスダメージは反射されない。それ故にイライラすることはないでしょう。 crown of eyesの固有性能によりprojectile damage,chaos damage,spell damage等幅広い要素で火力をあげれますので装備とかjewelは比較的お安いです。
Core item キーアイテム
spell damage apply to attack damage. スペルダメージをアタックに適用します
Gears 装備
You pay attention to resist. Because you use Crown of eyes , and you may use Lightning coil or not. But Some jewels(with resist) will help you,don't worry so much. レジストに気を付けてください。 Crown of eyesを装備しますし、ひょっとしたらLightningCoilを装備するかもしれないからです。 しかしjewelにはレジストがついたものもありますので、そんなに心配しなくてもいいです。
wand 武器
Obliteration is good for beginner and cheap. For your reference,I got left one for 1c , right one for 12c. 参考までにですが、左のwandを12c、右のを1cで私は手に入れました。 If you will go end game,please get chaos wand.It is not expensive.(iLv83,so there are not many) Obliterationは入門者向けで安いです。 もしエンドゲームを考慮に入れる場合は、chaos wandを手に入れてください。 高くはないですがitem lvが83以上ですので多くはありません。 ・what is important on wand? 武器を選ぶとき大事なことは？ AS = chaos damage > crit chance > spell damage = physical damage ・I need much more DPS!!! もっと火力がほしい Use physical wand with spell damage,like the following.But too much expensive. Most worst way for DPS against cost.About detail,please check this.http://i.imgur.com/270vJzo.jpg 下記のようなspellダメージがついてる物理ワンドを使え。しかし無茶苦茶高くてコスパは最悪です。 詳しくは次を参照くださいhttp://i.imgur.com/270vJzo.jpg If you use physical wand,pay attention to physical reflect. もし物理ワンドを使う場合は反射に気を付けて。
helm ヘルム
Needless to say いうまでもなく。 For your reference,I got this for 15c. 参考までにですが、私は15cで手に入れました。
Shield 盾
Spell damage, Life, resist For your reference,I got this for 20c. 参考までにですが、私は20cで手に入れました。
Chest 鎧
Lightning coil or 6L are not required Lightning coilとか6Linkは必ずしも必要とされていない Link Must:5L or 6L(if you use pathfinder,4L is no problem) High Reccomend:LightningCoil(physical mitigation) / Daresso's Defiance(Endurance charge) medium Reccomend:Rare / Belly of the Beast If you play as champion,use as you like. 必要なリンク数:5Link もしくは6Link(ただしpathfinderに限り4Lでも可能) 強く推奨:LightningCoil(物理ダメ緩和) / Daresso's Defiance(Endurance charge) そこそこ:レア / Belly of the Beast もしchampionだったら好きなの装備して。
Gloves 手
High Recommend:Rare with life and resist 強く推奨:ライフとレジストのあるもの For your reference,I got this for 20c. 参考までにですが、私は15cで手に入れました。 ・Optional(任意) If you have enough resist,it give you more DPS. レジストに余裕があればより火力を。 It improve INT and mana leech perfectly.Very expensive. INT確保とマナリーチを完璧に改善します。すごく高いです If you have great physical wand,it will give you much chaos and poison damage. But the act of being contrary is to chaos KB a little. もしすごいphysicalワンドを持ってるなら絶大なカオスとポイズンダメージを扱えるようになります。 でもちょっとビルドの旨からは外れてます。
Boots 足
As you like.お好みで For your reference,I got this for 2divine. 参考までにですが、私は2divineで手に入れました。
amulet アミュレット
Life > crit multi=ACC=all resist>spell damage When you search amulet for craft in poe.trade,i reccomend ,(life/acc/all resist) or (life/crit multi/all resist).I bought a lot of amulet,Much of them(with 3mods) were cheap,(around3~12chaos,average 8c) もしクラフトするためにトレードサイトで検索するなら(life/acc/all resist) か (life/crit multi/all resist)のついたものを検索するのを勧めます。私はその条件でたくさんアミュレットを買いあさりましたが、概ね安かったです。3chaosから12chaos、平均8chaosぐらいでした。 For your reference,I got this for 5c,and craft it with add chaos for 13c , and vaal orb. 参考までにですが、私は5cで手に入れ、13cでクラフトしvaal orbいれました。 Base damage on chaos is not so much high,i reccomend craft with rare. craft:add chaos damage(cost : 13chaos,prefix) カオスのベースダメージは高くないのでレアにクラフトすることをお勧めします。 add chaosは13chaosのprefixです。
Ring 指輪
Life>resist>others For your reference,I got this for 40・２５ｃc,and craft them with add chaos for 13c . 参考までにですが、私は40c/25cで手に入れ、13cでクラフトしました。 Base damage on chaos is not so much high,i reccomend craft with rare. craft:add chaos damage(cost : 13chaos,prefix) カオスのベースダメージは高くないのでレアにクラフトすることをお勧めします。 add chaosは13chaosのprefixです。
Belt ベルト
For your reference,I got this for 5. 参考までにですが、私は15cで手に入れました Life > resist=flask > STR
Flask フラスコ
Keeping charges will be much easier.And you can CWDT manually. Improve crit chance very much. For example,crit chance 40% will be 64%. crit chance 50% will be 75%. crit chance 60% will be 86%. Physical damage mitigation.
I need more DPS もっと火力を。
・Most important 一番大事なこと wand:47~123 gem:170~256(lv20) / 190~284(lv21) amulet:8~23 ring:8~23 ring:8~23 The total of the above will chaos base damage for you. In other words,Gem level is very very important ,and lv21 Q0 gem is superior then lv20 Q20 gem. 上記の合計があなたのカオスベースダメージになります。 言い換えればGemレベルはすごく大事で、lv21 Q0 gemはlv20 Q20 gemより優れています。 ・important 大事 Do you know doudledip?If you dont know,please search the word. On this build,Inc/more chaos damage,Inc/more Projectile damage,Frenzy charge,and Inc/more AOE damage corresponds to double dip. The following factors with underline are very important on this build.(You can deal them easily with passive , gears and jewels.) ダブルディップって言葉をしってますか？知らなければ検索してみてください。 このビルドだとInc/more chaos damage,Inc/more Projectile damage,Frenzy charge,and Inc/more AOE damageがそれに該当します。 次の下線のある要素がこのビルドでは重要です。(パッシブとか装備とかjewelで簡単に扱えます) factor increasing damage of KineticBlast KBのダメージを増やす要素 ・Inc/more chaos damage ・Inc/more Projectile damage ・Increased Damage(with wand) ・Inc spell damage ・Frenzy charge ・Inc/more AOE damage factor increasing poison damage of KineticBlast KBのポイズンダメージを増やす要素 ・Inc/more chaos damage ・Inc/more Projectile damage ・Frenzy charge ・Inc Damage over time ・Inc/more AOE damage ・potato ポテト Use high damage physical wand with spell damage.
Jewels
As I wrote on "I need more DPS",chaos / projectile / spell damage is important. Increased damage and some DoubleDip EB + jewel*2(gain ES+3)=mana sasutain,enough. If you put this on shadow or witch area,You can take some points very efficiently. If you have 5 corrupted gears,you can put points more efficiently. 5 corrupted ....terrible hard.
GemSetup gemの構成
Kinetic Blast
Base:KB - GMP - add chaos - pierce - poison Base:KB - GMP - add chaos - pierce (Path finder has poison) Gem with More chaos damage or More projectile damage will be double dip. More chaos damageとかMore projectileと表記のあるgemはダブルディップします ・Optional(任意) VoidManipulation Double dip. If you dont deal herald of ice,best option. PowerCharge on Crit If you take power charge or wand node above witch,i reccomend. Easy on mana cost. Inc crit chance not bad. SlowerProjectile Double dip. Hard on mana cost.
Other setusp その他構成
The following are examples.You can take them as you like. If you like defensive play,go to Enfeeble. If you like beast,go to assasin mark. ・Enfeeble + CWDT / Enfeeble + Blasphemy For Defence. ・Herald of ash Improve AOE mobing very much.About detail,check videos. ・Herald of ice - curse on hit - Assasin mark Improve AOE mobing and power charge very much.About detail,check videos. If you use this,dont use voidManipulation. ・ImmortalCall - IncDuration - CWDT standard ・barrage - CoC - Frostwall You can make frostwall quickly. ・Frostwall - SpellTotem Auto frostwall. ・Frostwall - CWDT Auto frostwall. ・Wither - SpellTotem - fastercasting DPS boosts.strong ・Frenzy - pcoc - Bladevoltex - CWDT If you play as deadeye or you put point on aoe,recommend.Useful. ・Icespear - GMP - Pcoc - CWDT ・BladeVoltex - Pcoc - CWDT For power charge.
passive tree スキルツリー
Suggestion of Ascendancy class サブクラス提案
  ・Pathfinder VS Deadeye https://goo.gl/om5PCc This simple calc show both class ' DPS. As for deadeye's calc,it is not including Accuracy and more 30% damage(by futher). Simply speaking,on DPS, there are not clear difference. ・IMO about Pathfinder MS bonus and flask=useful +Without poison gem,minimum=4L +you can use any flask's easily and pleasantly -need to use flask efficiently.in other words,must manage flask. -need life leech for chaos ・IMO about Deadeye Good Balance on attack. +add projectile,more20% damage +a lot of projectile damage +a lot of accuracy -need poison. -need life leech for chaos +increased radius,it can help Blasphemy,kinetic blast,herald of ash and ice. ・IMO about Occulist Good Balance on attack. +add 1 curse. +near aoe node. +easy on pcoc +chaos explosion -need poison. -need life leech for chaos ・IMO about Ascendant,Berserker-Deadeye Good Balance on attack and defence. +add projectile,more20% damage +need not life leech for chaos. -increased damage taken -projectile damage ・IMO about Champion If you play as Deadeye,you dont need to put points on Accuracy. もしdeadeyeで遊ぶならaccuracyにポイントを置く必要はありません。  I misspelled！！！！！ in images. ×loot ○Route Go the loot as you like. left route:near>vaal pact/mana reserved/scion loot right:near>pierce Leveling(low level) https://goo.gl/WWUBeW Leveling(med level) https://goo.gl/nXN44S Leveling(high level) https://goo.gl/k7v1wj My current tree https://goo.gl/wnc8kf
If you are no problem on mana and you really take more DOT.
Change area D from area C. Area C:kind for you. INT enough. Area D:AS , more DOT.maybe you need some way for INT. ・AreaC 14point near EB,crit multi 47% increased damage with wand 39% of wand physical damage added as Lightning damage 90% crit chance 36% crit multiplier 6% increased wand damage per power charge INT50 ・AreaD 14point 54% chaos damage <-DoubleDip 12% chaos resist 75% crit chance 12% crit multiplier 15% Attack speed 5% cast speed 5% Movement speed 30 DEX 1Jewel socket 1Jewel socket  
If you use physical wand or Hungry abyss
Intuitive Leap
 
other optional
witch life:5% all resist + 20% life , cool add 1cuse :very nice,very far,depending on your thought  
Videos 動画
coming soon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qokrfBRpxUk4L + Obliteration(pathfinder,w/o EB) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CADg4gd4KCMNecro map without herald(pathfinder,w/o EB) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uNFKQmNT_wJungle Valley Map(Pathfinder,w/ EB)
Q&A
・mana sasutain General:Eldritch Battery + Jewel*2(gain +3 ES on hit) Optional:Atziri's acuity ・Frenzy charge vs Power charge In most cases,Frenzy charge is superior than power charge. If you use atziri's acuity ,put points on power charge, or play as pathfinder,PowerCharge is also important. ・How to keep charges? Please take the way as you like. Nowadays,i use PCoC-Frenzy-Bladevoltex-CWDT,BloodRage,and Doedre's Elixir. ・power charge PCoC(with KB) PCoC-Frenzy-Bladevoltex-CWDT Herald of ice-curse on hit-Assasin's Mark Doedre's Elixir(getting and keeping charges more easier,and you can use CWDT by manual) ・Frenzy charge BloodRage PCoC-Frenzy-Bladevoltex-CWDT Doedre's Elixir (getting and keeping charges more easier,and you can use CWDT by manual)
My current gears 私の装備
If you want anything,i will try and add it if possible. just now writing .wait for .... Last edited by neff_wp#5885 on May 7, 2016, 5:58:00 PM Last bumped on May 12, 2016, 8:39:29 AM
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Could you share a video of you running a Colosseum/Core? Also I feel like because the build is already so good at clearing packs given the nature of KB that using vaal skills and an echo frost wall with 100% pierce would be really good for solving wanders' single target issues. If you go right and drop the 7 points around VP you could path up through the life and get 100% pierce, and also drop the intuitive leap for another 7% life + damage mods jewel. Also the 5% life node missing in duelist. Don't really need the 14 life start at ranger either. Also if you path through that way you can drop a dex nodes in the ranger/duelist area. Or drop 2 dex nodes and take 1 mana node. Not sure about the 8 nodes for 20% life/a jewel either in witch. You can get 20% at written in blood for 4, also bumps up your ES pool if you go EB.
Not sure if the extra charges are worth it with intuitive leap too, or the witch life node pathing. Since they only really help you with packs - which again, don't really need help with. 100% pierce with 6 frost walls would be 36 explosions with deadeye ascendancies, as opposed to the average 12 explosions you get with 50% pierce. Also makes it more reliable if they're behind the wall too. Why did you decide to spec out of EB? seems like it'd be nice, allowing you to reserve more mana. I suppose if you're using acuities... Those are my thoughts for now - been looking into it a lot myself. Was considering using a CJ too, but a LC is a lot safer haha. Seems pretty annoying to run LC + CoE... To be ele weakness capped youve got to find... like 600 res, holy shit. |
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Thank you for your reply.
" Sorry.I can't share videos and play Path of exile for 3~4weeks. Because I am away on a business trip until June. " Your opinions are very helpful and interesting for me.When i have enough time,I'll consider it. " As you say,EB is not needed for me(now i have acuity). EB with acuity solve mana problem perfectly(already enough lol) , and also I can run no life / mana regen maps. There is no deep meaning. " Also I considered CJ.Maybe CJ will improve the usability of KB , Blasphemy , and herald of ash/ice. In a sense,CJ will be best choice , ithink. As for Ele Resistance, Rare hand or Rare boots(If both are unique,ele resisntance will be not enough.) Rare amulet,rings are needed as the minimum required,i think. Anyway,thank you very much for your reply. |
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Ultimately I decided to give a shot at a champion version of the build, using carcass jack tentatively just cuz I have a 6L lying around. The fortify is more flexible than coil while providing even better mitigation benefits, also allowing me to use shadows and dust + CoE relatively easily. Since I don't have acuities the ES helps with the EB too. Not sure if I want to go acro but I probably will ultimately - I don't think I need that much ES for EB.
I'm leveling as ele bow right now, will probably use a windripper til ~80 when I can reach the wand nodes then respec. This is a tentative level 88 tree for me right now, but we'll see as time goes on. May drop some of the damage nodes for more jewels if I need the mana, or maybe mana leech. I'll also have to see what my crit gets up to. Here's my tentative tree: http://poeplanner.com/AAAABAQDAU2SI_aNfe4O_rq74311gh6bLRSwXzmwq9NvBS107XrvLlMwfGHiVUsmlWKsnapsjGVNR369Now2vqdDMV3yP3Ns55phn4jCc3Nw9ufOcAmgidNwUioLUUdxsMjw0378xR9B62MDHhEvKwqPYCPTwfOio9sL2sE31O0_jX7qYre2dcs7fA_EuMoILjY9jb_veha_r-sZju2DAF4FtcLstMVbr8SiTP__3iT951TUIwHRokD0-KEio4qVLklR8NUHHrVI45-Hdkp9DY1OKg5If8YqW3n2QzZS7BGWivDEguxciXGqzXvUhJRr1A== To be honest it would probably be better if I used a coil haha, just to really drive home the tankiness factor. But well, softcore.. so I'll give it a shot :) |
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Alright it's fairly fleshed out now. Looking for a new ring to cap me for red map ele weakness. 42k in hideout, ~75k with BR + 3PC + 4FC. Managed to cap for LC while still using unique gloves which I'm happy about. My bandits are also messed up so I'm missing 40 flat life from oak.
Thing is right now I'm using an omen wand base because it had the rolls I was looking for and none of the imbueds had anything similar. (spell+chaos+crit+as+multi). Think my dps would jump a fat bit if I went from a 1.35 aps omen to a 1.65 aps imbued. Tried crafting my own, rolled malicious three times total. Two regal bricks and one rolled malicious + suffix together. If I can get any prefix that'd be great. Would multi mod with aps/crit/spell on the imbued. In reflect maps I trade wrath for grace. Surprisingly physical reflect gives me more trouble than elemental reflect. Generally try to keep vaal grace up just so I can shoot without really caring, for good measure. Last edited by PosteriorPounder#7650 on May 12, 2016, 3:02:38 PM
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