GhazzyTV - Essence Drain & Contagion (or Bane/Soulrend) Trickster [SC/HC/Uber Elder/Shaper]

My damage goes down (chaos dmg per second, not tooltip) wheni equip empower lvl 3 insted of slower projectile. Is this normal ?

Thanks for your ED build

btw from which level should is start using Tabula

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Kelthien wrote:

Love the build, and really enjoy ED as a skill!

A couple quick questions!
* How does Contagion compare with Abyssal Cry at higher levels? I hear a lot of ED folks swapping and enjoying it.
* In higher-level maps (T11+), how does the damage/clear speed compare? Is this a viable 'high end' build, or does it plateau somewhere?
* What sort of single-target/boss damage solutions do you have? I sometimes feel like my group DPS is amazing, but my single-target damage is severely hindered.

Thanks again!

Cheers bro, glad you like it!
Answering your questions:
*Abyssal Cry is a really nice addition, I personally didn't feel the need of it unless you play with party members.
* In higher tiers you'll be slightly slower but changing out the Slower Projectile for lvl 3 or 4 Empower and adding Tabula + 1 corruption (WHICH IS STILL CHEAPER THAN BUYING A NORMAL CARCASS JACK!) will solve that issue easily.
* Single target DPS is where this build starts taking a dump, the solution is rather simple: Bring a Vaal Lightning Trap, it will double your DMG output and don't forget to smack that Wither Totem out. And if you want to go even crazier, use a manual vulnerability curse for shits n giggles!


My pleasure! :*

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thorgal89 wrote:

Running lightning coil for even moar mitigation. Works great

Great addition, carcass jack works great as well with less mitigation. Problem with those 2 choices are the currency input and that getting those with +1 corruption will be not only expensive but close to impossible in a temp-league hence why Tabula is such a safe and strong choice for the build.

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tsunny wrote:

I'm currently leveling with your build, and I had a quick question for you.

In your video, it seems like your ED+Contagion spreads in such a large radius and clears rooms out so efficiently. What I am experiencing is that I can put Contagion on a group and then hit a mob with ED, but it doesn't spread nearly as greatly as yours.

Is the spreading of the dots based on the radius of my contagion? Or is it based on aoe nodes or something?

It is based off your Contagion and its AoE. As I'm going through in the Video Guide I do not suggest taking inc AoE nodes from the tree as its a waste. However, I would suggest making sure you are using increased AoE support gem with your Contagion as well as getting Quality on your Contagion gem. It is fairly cheap to buy one with quality but can also quality it up yourself of course or flip it at lvl 20. That's all I'm using and its literally "more than enough".

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thorgal89 wrote:

My damage goes down (chaos dmg per second, not tooltip) wheni equip empower lvl 3 insted of slower projectile. Is this normal ?

That's because slower projectile is amazingly strong. However, at lvl 3 in a tabula +1 it becomes lvl 4 and will go above that of a high lvl slower projectile. Even more so if/when you get a lvl 4 empower it becomes lvl 5. So the empower is not equipped till you get that Tabula +1 going, which has roughly the same price tag depending on league as a lvl 3 Empower.

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GuiltyHollow wrote:

Thanks for your ED build

btw from which level should is start using Tabula

Cheers! Glad you like it bro :D

When ever you feel comfortable using it. I used it early on for faster leveling for example!

I love your build currently leveling with it.
I did the same thing in talisman but I did not follow a build.
The only thing that I did differently is that at the beginning of the shadow skill tree i picked up method to the madness is their a reason that you opted for golem's blood instead? It seems to me from your video that endgame the regen from golems is unnecessary (then again the damage also seems that way). I wasn't using frenzy charges either and hadn't thought about it. I dont think i will use the charges this time but instead opt for the testudo and block defence below golems blood.

Tldr why didnt you get method to the madness.

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whyme193 wrote:

I love your build currently leveling with it.
I did the same thing in talisman but I did not follow a build.
The only thing that I did differently is that at the beginning of the shadow skill tree i picked up method to the madness is their a reason that you opted for golem's blood instead? It seems to me from your video that endgame the regen from golems is unnecessary (then again the damage also seems that way). I wasn't using frenzy charges either and hadn't thought about it. I dont think i will use the charges this time but instead opt for the testudo and block defence below golems blood.

Tldr why didnt you get method to the madness.

Hey!

Cheers! Glad you like it bro!
Everyone has their prefered way of playing the build of course. :)

All other nodes towards damage are simply better and i felt comfortable having more eHP over slightly more damage if we are comparing Golems Blood vs Method. However, the only arguement left is to remove "Growth and Decay" for "Method of Madness" as we are talking about a 2% damage increase with extra chaos res instead of rather futile life regen.

But again, it comes down to a matter of taste, ED regen kicks in once its spread and on bosses its going to be more or less only 1x DoT regen which made me again feel safer having extra life regen during those situations at least for hardcore!


Hope that clearified my reasoning! :)

Hello,
I try this build and for the moment, i use LMP with ED. What do u think about LMP (or GMP) ?

And by the way, thx fo ur work : i enjoy it ^^

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A55ayan wrote:

Hello,
I try this build and for the moment, i use LMP with ED. What do u think about LMP (or GMP) ?

And by the way, thx fo ur work : i enjoy it ^^

Hey,

Just like increased duration and Increased AoE nodes are in my opinion completely wasted for this build. I also think GMP/LMP is completely wasted for the build, we are spreading the dot by using Contagion so it will hit "everything" around the first target. I would much rather focus my damage increase on that 1 hit that will spread to everyone rather than multiple targets who will later anyways get the debuff as soon as 1 dies. (Assuming contagion is in place).

Updated, fixed a few details in the guide.

why pierce? why not poison instead? wouldnt poison augment your single target?

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Ghots wrote:

why pierce? why not poison instead? wouldnt poison augment your single target?

Hey,
Pierce has been buffed to give the same damage as a Slower Projectile, however without the negative impact.
Poison has been hit with 2 balance changes;
1) It no longer procs of the dot damage, instead only procs from the initial hit which is horrible
2) Poison damage itself has been lowered on the gem as well from the skill-tree node "Fatal Toxins" so again, making it completely useless for this build in todays patch.

Hope it helped!