[3.5] Say_Ten's Melee Shadow - Murder Everything Cheaply

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nabilfares5 wrote:
Hey, im using your build, but im thinking about daggers, but i dont know too much about theorycraft or have enough knowledge to tell if its going to be good.

Im going to put one more point in dps for the Adder's touch (removing everything related to claw), but i dont know what i should remove to get this one more point, and im afraid to be too squishy, and about the gear, im going to use the same like yours but the weapon, i saw that Bino kitchen's knife uses this passive(Adder's), and its pretty powerful and have good sustain, are there better daggers or combinations or Dual wielding binos is perfect for it? Sorry for asking about dagger when your build is about claws, but i truly like your concept, like yourself i prefer Shadow killing things with small weapons and not shields, magic or huge 2hands.

I hope that GGG buffs Shadow melee builds, i hate to be forced to play magic builds to reach higher endgame with this character.


Two Binos would be fine to get you going. Plus the life regen would be a nice touch. You will want to invest in some leech nodes too.
Hello, is going Trickster instead of Assassin better for power and frenzy charges? I might go hybrid life ES with your build. Btw I am having a good time with lighting strike in HC harbinger.
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Say_Ten wrote:
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zonda02 wrote:
What's the actual opportunity if I run that abysses+ 6l coil over bor (considering I have currency for that)? Will I get more damage or survivability ? Abysses makes you take a lot more damage or lc will compensate that? I ll get extra 4 sockets although- what I should use them for?


You'd be doing a lot more damage assuming you have a 6L armor.

As for the open 4L setup, you could run a war chief totem (or any totem), another Vaal skill, or just buff other skills that aren't currently linked to anything


Could u give any specific example of that 4l setup? I'd guess if I want to improve surviability I should use some kind of totem? Or maybe link ice golem to some kind of curse on hit?
Last edited by zonda02#4688 on Aug 13, 2017, 2:49:22 PM
@say_ten : Do you by chance have a pastebin of this for Path of Builder?
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Radiocrush wrote:
Hello, is going Trickster instead of Assassin better for power and frenzy charges? I might go hybrid life ES with your build. Btw I am having a good time with lighting strike in HC harbinger.


It wouldn't be a bad choice, especially if you couple it with the dodge nodes on the right of the tree. Personally, I still prefer Assassin, but I might try the Trickster tree one of these days.
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zonda02 wrote:
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Say_Ten wrote:
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zonda02 wrote:
What's the actual opportunity if I run that abysses+ 6l coil over bor (considering I have currency for that)? Will I get more damage or survivability ? Abysses makes you take a lot more damage or lc will compensate that? I ll get extra 4 sockets although- what I should use them for?


You'd be doing a lot more damage assuming you have a 6L armor.

As for the open 4L setup, you could run a war chief totem (or any totem), another Vaal skill, or just buff other skills that aren't currently linked to anything


Could u give any specific example of that 4l setup? I'd guess if I want to improve surviability I should use some kind of totem? Or maybe link ice golem to some kind of curse on hit?


a second CWDT setup could be a high level CWDT gem linked to arctic breath with GMP and maybe decoy totem

or you could rock ancestral protector with melee physical, faster attacks and crit multi/added fire/whatever or even something crowd control-ish like blind or stun
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imrys wrote:
@say_ten : Do you by chance have a pastebin of this for Path of Builder?


i don't but probably should do that at some point. i'm being lazy =D
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Say_Ten wrote:
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nabilfares5 wrote:
Hey, im using your build, but im thinking about daggers, but i dont know too much about theorycraft or have enough knowledge to tell if its going to be good.

Im going to put one more point in dps for the Adder's touch (removing everything related to claw), but i dont know what i should remove to get this one more point, and im afraid to be too squishy, and about the gear, im going to use the same like yours but the weapon, i saw that Bino kitchen's knife uses this passive(Adder's), and its pretty powerful and have good sustain, are there better daggers or combinations or Dual wielding binos is perfect for it? Sorry for asking about dagger when your build is about claws, but i truly like your concept, like yourself i prefer Shadow killing things with small weapons and not shields, magic or huge 2hands.

I hope that GGG buffs Shadow melee builds, i hate to be forced to play magic builds to reach higher endgame with this character.


Two Binos would be fine to get you going. Plus the life regen would be a nice touch. You will want to invest in some leech nodes too.


Can you please show me from where i should remove points for those life leechs nodes, thanks for the help.
OP, can I use this build for Blade Flurry?
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isgz wrote:
/////bor/////

DS
MS
CRIT DMG
RUTHLESS

/////6L/////

DS
MS
CRIT DMG (added fire for bigger numbers but split damage)
RUTHLESS
MELEE PHYSICAL
MAIM

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Where do I get the cleave then?(or this is specifically solo target dps setup?) From unique jewel or ms = melee splash?And where is brutality gem that you mentioned earlier for coil setup? It should give more damage then maim or ruthless?

Also if I use brutality will it work with our elemental auras - HoA+Hatred?
Last edited by zonda02#4688 on Aug 15, 2017, 4:31:49 AM

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