[3.5] Say_Ten's Melee Shadow - Murder Everything Cheaply

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Zinath wrote:
Any gear recommendation for me? I'm trying to follow the "ideal stats" part of the guide but i'm not sure what I should be replacing first.

I'm new to the game and I've been avoiding using exalted orbs to buy since I don't really know how rare (or valuable) they really are. At the moment I just have 2 exalted and 30 chaos but if better gear means more currency from higher maps I don't mind using what I have.




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crown_is_heavy wrote:
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Zinath wrote:
Any gear recommendation for me? I'm trying to follow the "ideal stats" part of the guide but i'm not sure what I should be replacing first.

I'm new to the game and I've been avoiding using exalted orbs to buy since I don't really know how rare (or valuable) they really are. At the moment I just have 2 exalted and 30 chaos but if better gear means more currency from higher maps I don't mind using what I have.




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oh lol hadnt noticed, fixed it
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Zinath wrote:
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crown_is_heavy wrote:
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Zinath wrote:
Any gear recommendation for me? I'm trying to follow the "ideal stats" part of the guide but i'm not sure what I should be replacing first.

I'm new to the game and I've been avoiding using exalted orbs to buy since I don't really know how rare (or valuable) they really are. At the moment I just have 2 exalted and 30 chaos but if better gear means more currency from higher maps I don't mind using what I have.




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oh lol hadnt noticed, fixed it


Buy Taste of Hate (drop a bismuth flask) since it costs like 30c lol on softcore. Buy Shaper's Touch if you can cap your resistances. Other currency you can spend on buying 6 link Loreweave / Belly of the Beast + the Starkonja's Head.

btw, fix your skills in the gloves, change atziri's promise for a basalt flask.

Made the change, not sure which gems to use in the starkonja or the second unset ring, using them to level up stuff at the moment.

Also anything i should be looking to upgrade first now?

Thanks for the help btw
Last edited by Zinath#7910 on Feb 3, 2019, 9:18:21 PM
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Zinath wrote:
Made the change, not sure which gems to use in the starkonja or the second unset ring, using them to level up stuff at the moment.

Also anything i should be looking to upgrade first now?

Thanks for the help btw


craft elemental damage with attacks on your belt

you can put hatred in your other unset ring, then attach a support to your golem, like blind or cull, or run another vaal skill...but you should really get better rings. need more life and more dps, assuming your resists are capped

anyway, i would absolutely run a big time vaal skill in starkonja's...either warchief, protector or vaal double strike. or you can run a 3L vaal skill in your weapon and attach blood rage to whirling blades for free movement.
Pretty cool build. To clear tier 6 maps. Tier 8 maps and higher sometimes are harder than Atziri.

Seems to be tier 8 is the highest possible map tier to play even if you die sometimes, you will get positive levelling. Damage is very low, lightning strike can't hit highground neighter lowground, and any obstacle like a log or a tree does't allow you to hit mobs. Frost blades isn't good too because your char has to be closer to mobs than if you used lightning strike, so you die more often.

Projectiles don't pierce so you have to break in a crowd of mobs to reach a mage or a totem that reccurects skeletons otherwise you will just stand and hit invulnerable mobs which are 1 hp.

3 millions dps is a joke. With all buffs from your gear you may reach something like 80k on your lightning strike. Double strike is just a skill for bosses, its' dps does mean nothing for 99% of game content that is just a map clearing. I don't know even exact values but it's exactly less than 300k.

I admit this build is cheap and you can do tier 12 maps but it doesn't worth it. The maximum is tier 6 maps and chaos recipes from delve.

So in conclusion I would say this build sucks, period.
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Pretty cool build. To clear tier 6 maps. Tier 8 maps and higher sometimes are harder than Atziri.

You can do uber elder with some investments. There is a video in a comment section.

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Seems to be tier 8 is the highest possible map tier to play even if you die sometimes, you will get positive levelling. Damage is very low, lightning strike can't hit highground neighter lowground, and any obstacle like a log or a tree does't allow you to hit mobs. Frost blades isn't good too because your char has to be closer to mobs than if you used lightning strike, so you die more often.

Tier 8 is a joke tier for the build if you do everything correctly. I played the build on HC so "positive lvling" isn't a goal, you can easily complete maps without dying. Frost Blades is a 10 times safer skill, you are so wrong.

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Projectiles don't pierce so you have to break in a crowd of mobs to reach a mage or a totem that reccurects skeletons otherwise you will just stand and hit invulnerable mobs which are 1 hp.

Enchant / pierce node on the tree / chain from lightning strike / ancestral warchief and everything is ok.

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3 millions dps is a joke. With all buffs from your gear you may reach something like 80k on your lightning strike. Double strike is just a skill for bosses, its' dps does mean nothing for 99% of game content that is just a map clearing. I don't know even exact values but it's exactly less than 300k.

Dual strike's damage is the only damage that matters. You can easily clear trash packs with 4link lightning strike / frost blades, DPS matters for bosses. And yes, it's much hiugher than 300k.

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I admit this build is cheap and you can do tier 12 maps but it doesn't worth it. The maximum is tier 6 maps and chaos recipes from delve.

nope

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So in conclusion I would say this build sucks, period

nope
Last edited by crown_is_heavy#1236 on Feb 5, 2019, 12:24:49 PM
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Aweary wrote:
Pretty cool build. To clear tier 6 maps. Tier 8 maps and higher sometimes are harder than Atziri.

Seems to be tier 8 is the highest possible map tier to play even if you die sometimes, you will get positive levelling. Damage is very low, lightning strike can't hit highground neighter lowground, and any obstacle like a log or a tree does't allow you to hit mobs. Frost blades isn't good too because your char has to be closer to mobs than if you used lightning strike, so you die more often.

Projectiles don't pierce so you have to break in a crowd of mobs to reach a mage or a totem that reccurects skeletons otherwise you will just stand and hit invulnerable mobs which are 1 hp.

3 millions dps is a joke. With all buffs from your gear you may reach something like 80k on your lightning strike. Double strike is just a skill for bosses, its' dps does mean nothing for 99% of game content that is just a map clearing. I don't know even exact values but it's exactly less than 300k.

I admit this build is cheap and you can do tier 12 maps but it doesn't worth it. The maximum is tier 6 maps and chaos recipes from delve.

So in conclusion I would say this build sucks, period.


thanks for your feedback. i echo most of what crown said but if you are having this much trouble you are not playing intelligently or something is off.

i just checked your gear and you are using an old BoR and some gear pieces with mediocre life rolls. your jewels aren't really close to ideal. you have a couple of optional/unnecessary flasks. you are missing out on some dps on your gear.

are you a newer player? i see you are level 88 and its the highest level character you have, so there's at least that.

also, to address the 3M DPS, most people seem to not understand what aurabots are/do. i was getting significant buffs. in a temp league, you should be able to get at least 500k dps on dual strike with flasks/charges pretty easily. in standard it should be even easier.

if you want some more guidance, let me know. if you're through with playing it, thanks for trying and for your comments. in the meantime, we will continue killing all the shit that you couldn't.
I did some changes can you control my items and tell me what I need now ? Starkonja + 6link Loreweave ?

I have 187k dps on dual strike , 73k dps on L.strike with hatred + purity //
Last edited by LordUnforgiven#0826 on Feb 6, 2019, 8:08:16 AM
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LordUnforgiven wrote:
I did some changes can you control my items and tell me what I need now ? Starkonja + 6link Loreweave ?

I have 187k dps on dual strike , 73k dps on L.strike with hatred + purity //


Yes, 6 link + the starkonja's head is your next goal

Also drop the Rumi's Concoction since its efficiency is getting recuced by the Acrobatics keystone. Quartz is a good defensive flask, sin's rebirth is a good semi-defensive flask, lion's roar provides tons of damage, but gives you a knocback mechanic, which you should get used to it, otherwise pick one of this two.

One more thing, I made some changes for your tree -
Spoiler
https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/3.5.3/AAAABAYBAQAGAdwDhwSxBbUMcw2NEJIR1RQgFfYV_Ra_F7AbrSM2I_Yk_SaVKgsqOC5TMHEwfDIyNZI31DpCQzFF9Ed-SotLeEz_TZJOKlFHUxBTu1VLV5dbr1vTXfJfP2BBYeJieWKsY3Bkr2VNbIxtbG87b1dwUnX9d-N4DXgZeWh7FH11hG-E2YnTijiMNo19jYGNv5KAk5CVZpoXnaqi2aOKqW6w2LGztMW1SLXyvTa9Xb6nv9XAGsEEwaDC7NNv037UI9RC1gfYvdrB3ajfoOdU53To1usU7T_uDu8O_MX-uv_e?accountName=LordUnforgiven&characterName=Vulthurnax

This is better since you are using Acrobatics. You are missing ALOT OF HP, just tons of HP by not taking the Golem's blood and Thick skin. They are really effective (15 for 2 points and 14 for 2 points). You can take them later
Last edited by crown_is_heavy#1236 on Feb 6, 2019, 9:25:21 AM

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