[2.1 Video Guide] Tanky End-Game Kinetic Blast Wander Build [HC/SC Viable]

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Toma_Hawk wrote:
Hey Nerdbro!
I have some inner disagreement with your passive tree :P

Check my Tree, got similar Life from it, also Leech and Mana reservation, this way you can run a dmg. gem instead of Blood Magic.



My Gear
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Using Thunderfists for my single target 5l setup

Running also a Pierce Gem in the 6l atm. For Frenzy Bloodrage.


Looks great mate. It is a somewhat different skill-tree and obviously not the way I would have gone with it, however I am sure it is going to work very well. The leech is a nice added bonus for sure! :)
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Ishamz wrote:
I did a few adjustments cuz I like playing with life leech to not die, so this is what I have now at lv81:



and this is the tree https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwYABAcFtQX5Bx4JoAzyDdEOSBGWFLAWvxmKG8ggbiP2JP0mlSepKgsqOCpbLR8wfDIBNj06WD7PP3NDNklRTLNNklAwUUdR2VLsVUtVxlm8XfJh4mHrYqxjQ2pDaxdsjGzncFJzcHn2elN9dX_Ggh6D24nTjDaNfY2_lSCVLpcGmmGbJp2qn4iio6LZpcuwkrDYshm0xbvjvOq95sBUwUnB88JzwuzDOsSixSjI3M3qznDPes_d037UI-OE51To1vDV8Yr2W_bn_rr_k__e?accountName=Ishamz&characterName=LetHitThePubNotNakedTho

im only using herald of ice and wrath so i can replace blood magic from my 6l and put life leech, i dont know how u r not dying LNB, i got 1shot twice in 1 map before leech gem + vaal pact.

sap essence node is enough to sustain mana with leech, ill get a vaal clarity for bosses so i can spam skills.

my dps is 80k full buffed with those 2 shitty wands, could be a lot higher.
only 3.5k life atm but i have a bunch of life nodes to pick



The reason you die to reflect mate is because your damage is 80.000 and duel wielding wands. That kind of damage is in no way necessary. I cleared tier 11 maps fast with just 16.000 dps - that said if you really want to scale it that high then yes Vaal Pact is going to be necessary.

I have always played HC, so the whole tool-tip dps race have never really been a thing for me, and although I understand it is awesome to have lots of DPS, it is not always the better choice. Less is more in this case :)
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jackals1234 wrote:
Thanks for the guide! Two questions:

1) Why Molten Shell instead of Immortal Call?

2) I'm lvl 62 with 3200 life and my life goes down rapidly because of the blood magic, especially with a 6 link. With bosses it's really bad (i can practically kill myself) even with Frost Wall. In your video your life barely moves even when you spam kinetic blast. Where are you getting so much regen from?


1. Immortal Call without endurance charges is simply not too useful =)

2. Are you using the blood dance boots and the regen they provide? Besides that you should be leeching a small amount from the phys damage you deal.
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LiftingNerdBro wrote:
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jackals1234 wrote:
Thanks for the guide! Two questions:

1) Why Molten Shell instead of Immortal Call?

2) I'm lvl 62 with 3200 life and my life goes down rapidly because of the blood magic, especially with a 6 link. With bosses it's really bad (i can practically kill myself) even with Frost Wall. In your video your life barely moves even when you spam kinetic blast. Where are you getting so much regen from?


1. Immortal Call without endurance charges is simply not too useful =)

2. Are you using the blood dance boots and the regen they provide? Besides that you should be leeching a small amount from the phys damage you deal.


Yeah i'm using Blood Dance and using a 6 link is practically impossible and fighting a boss with no adds around is almost suicide. Any chance you can post your gear?
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jackals1234 wrote:
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LiftingNerdBro wrote:
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jackals1234 wrote:
Thanks for the guide! Two questions:

1) Why Molten Shell instead of Immortal Call?

2) I'm lvl 62 with 3200 life and my life goes down rapidly because of the blood magic, especially with a 6 link. With bosses it's really bad (i can practically kill myself) even with Frost Wall. In your video your life barely moves even when you spam kinetic blast. Where are you getting so much regen from?


1. Immortal Call without endurance charges is simply not too useful =)

2. Are you using the blood dance boots and the regen they provide? Besides that you should be leeching a small amount from the phys damage you deal.


Yeah i'm using Blood Dance and using a 6 link is practically impossible and fighting a boss with no adds around is almost suicide. Any chance you can post your gear?


I honestly have no idea why you would be dropping your life that fast. How much life regeneration do you have per second? You can alternatively add in life leech to help with your problem. This will make reflect safer as well. What is your damage btw?

You can see the characters gear by clicking my profile and locating the "LiftingWandsBro" character.
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One thing I can say, this build at level 30-38 is utterly tedious. Running dual Twyzel; the mana sucked from KB is so extreme you're constantly glugging potions -- and the KB (at least prior to GMP) passes through tons of targets and fails to kill them. I find myself often having to use barrage on 2-3 stragglers because KB just won't kill them. It will "hit" and obliterate groups fairly quickly (at range), but only if they're grouped together. I hope the build gets better once I get 38+ with GMP, etc.

Note I'm using 6L but even if I lower it to 4L the drain and targeting issues are fairly similar (e.g. less BM drain but less damage). I think the biggest disappointment is how it completely misses/passes through targets and does little to no damage. And Barrage (at least at 36) is pretty useless; taking Voll down took around 90 seconds. Other builds I've done average 10-30 seconds.
All that and a bag of chips!
Last edited by Mooginator#1287 on Jan 9, 2016, 5:51:25 PM
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Mooginator wrote:
One thing I can say, this build at level 30-38 is utterly tedious. Running dual Twyzel; the mana sucked from KB is so extreme you're constantly glugging potions -- and the KB (at least prior to GMP) passes through tons of targets and fails to kill them. I find myself often having to use barrage on 2-3 stragglers because KB just won't kill them. It will "hit" and obliterate groups fairly quickly (at range), but only if they're grouped together. I hope the build gets better once I get 38+ with GMP, etc.

Note I'm using 6L but even if I lower it to 4L the drain and targeting issues are fairly similar (e.g. less BM drain but less damage). I think the biggest disappointment is how it completely misses/passes through targets and sometimes even does no damage.


Wand builds starts of slow and feels pretty sluggish in the beginning. I mentioned that you should expect that a few times in the video as well.

As you also can see from the video however, that is definitely not the case for late game.
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Not sure if you missed my question or just chose not to answer but here goes again.

Awesome guide as always bro, quick question though. What do you recommend running in terms of links when you get the twyzel? Thanks and keep up the good work!
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LiftingNerdBro wrote:


Wand builds starts of slow and feels pretty sluggish in the beginning. I mentioned that you should expect that a few times in the video as well.

As you also can see from the video however, that is definitely not the case for late game.


Hey Lifting, do you have any typed recommendations for getting through the "sluggish" period? Also, when do things begin to really come together? 50, etc?

Thanks a ton for the response; I'm still sticking with it! Just surprised at how slow/cumbersome it is (especially with single targets) in the mid 30's.
All that and a bag of chips!
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CloudVIIx wrote:
Not sure if you missed my question or just chose not to answer but here goes again.

Awesome guide as always bro, quick question though. What do you recommend running in terms of links when you get the twyzel? Thanks and keep up the good work!


Ahh sorry about that mate.

I recommend: KB, LMP & Faster Attacks or blood magic if you have already reserved all your mana by that time.
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