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also wanted to ask is there any reason not to spend 4 extras points for addition curse node? or did you go over this yet

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darkfalldoon wrote:

Any suggestions of a single target that could go in Lightning Coil that is BBBGR? Seems like getting the 4B is nearly impossible on it..Also open to suggestions on gear if anyone has any

Took me over 400 chromes to get 2B3G in link setup. Seen 1 4B1G1R during process.

Hi
I am playing and really enjoying this build this far!
Just have a couple of questions on how to improve:

-I am on 71% crit chance (with golem, no charges). Is that enough or should I get more? (how)

-Is the Doedres Scorn that much of a Damage buff that it is worth to replace a Rats Nest with?

My current gear:



And I am not sure if it is worth to replace with:




Thanks for your help and your amazing guide!

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Hareu wrote:

also wanted to ask is there any reason not to spend 4 extras points for addition curse node? or did you go over this yet

It was a very good idea, and if you look on new trees it should be already added to the build :)

I would suggest to go for it through at high lvl so crit chance wont suffer.

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superdraky wrote:

Hi
I am playing and really enjoying this build this far!
Just have a couple of questions on how to improve:

-I am on 71% crit chance (with golem, no charges). Is that enough or should I get more? (how)

-Is the Doedres Scorn that much of a Damage buff that it is worth to replace a Rats Nest with?

My current gear:

And I am not sure if it is worth to replace with:

Thanks for your help and your amazing guide!

1)I am on 71% crit chance (with golem, no charges). Is that enough or should I get more?
If you have 85% with charges its enough. You get rest of % from assasins mark.

2)Is the Doedres Scorn that much of a Damage buff that it is worth to replace a Rats Nest with?
Doedre Scorn gives me 60% increased dmg all dmg from any sources. It's not visible on Tooltip but its there. It also gives me upgrades to blasphemy range and curses lvl. For example assasins mark gives 10 additional percent t crit chance on lvl 21.
It also gives INT, which i can drop then on rest of gear to pick more resistances.

3)Is it better than Rat's ?
If you are crit capped without Rat's as me, what Rat's really give ? Movement and attack speed.
Are they equal to 80% dmg from Doedre? Im not so sure. Do you have to look for int on other gear losing resistances ? Yes.

I have 65% crit chance in town and 87.5 with charges and golem. Dont see further point in investment into crit.

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sultangurde wrote:

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darkfalldoon wrote:

Any suggestions of a single target that could go in Lightning Coil that is BBBGR? Seems like getting the 4B is nearly impossible on it..Also open to suggestions on gear if anyone has any

Took me over 400 chromes to get 2B3G in link setup. Seen 1 4B1G1R during process.

Be careful with Lightning Coil colouring. It might be a lot easier to run FP in Staff. Its probably even better choice.

After running some time with new setup (Warlords Mark AoE), i can say that Cyclone in end game should stay in armour. With seperate skill for single target, CoC cyclone would be mostly used to run through groups. And have 0 problems with sustaining vs groups.

(* when ppl have better gear than you ;_;)

Short question: Why don't we take "Coldhearted Calculation" in the Shadow area? It gives 12% spell dmg, 10 int and 20% mana regen. I'd argue that the 12% spell dmg for 1 point is already good enough to take it and we are anyway a bit short on int. The mana regen could help while you don't have a BM staff.

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eragon1111 wrote:

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sultangurde wrote:

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darkfalldoon wrote:

Any suggestions of a single target that could go in Lightning Coil that is BBBGR? Seems like getting the 4B is nearly impossible on it..Also open to suggestions on gear if anyone has any

Took me over 400 chromes to get 2B3G in link setup. Seen 1 4B1G1R during process.

Be careful with Lightning Coil colouring. It might be a lot easier to run FP in Staff. Its probably even better choice.

After running some time with new setup (Warlords Mark AoE), i can say that Cyclone in end game should stay in armour. With seperate skill for single target, CoC cyclone would be mostly used to run through groups. And have 0 problems with sustaining vs groups.

(* when ppl have better gear than you ;_;)

So was it a waste crafting blood magic on that staff then? With 3 curses I've got 46/416 mana.. Cyclone costs 41, so it's sustained through warlords mark?

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Irongunner wrote:

Short question: Why don't we take "Coldhearted Calculation" in the Shadow area? It gives 12% spell dmg, 10 int and 20% mana regen. I'd argue that the 12% spell dmg for 1 point is already good enough to take it and we are anyway a bit short on int. The mana regen could help while you don't have a BM staff.

+1 jewel is worth a lot more, and build already is very point hungry.

@darkfalldoon:

Max mana cost for 6l lvl 1 cyclone is 22 mana. No idea where did you take that 41. With 5L its only 16 mana. Cyclone cost is so minimal that it can easly be sustained with 10% unreserved mana. Not sure if ive noted it in guide, but Conquerors Efficency unblocks 3% from reservation.

BM on staff is not a waste. 6L spell costs way too much to sustain it on reserved mana. Im going to use staff as single target socket. Through im not yet sure which skill to take (now using FP). Can actually go anything with enough base crit, because crit staff nodes are global.

Currently working with FP. 13k in 4L but spamming it costs too much to sustain on my 70 mana left...


ps. Even thinking about crit trap with poison but have to rly think about it.

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eragon1111 wrote:

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Irongunner wrote:

Short question: Why don't we take "Coldhearted Calculation" in the Shadow area? It gives 12% spell dmg, 10 int and 20% mana regen. I'd argue that the 12% spell dmg for 1 point is already good enough to take it and we are anyway a bit short on int. The mana regen could help while you don't have a BM staff.

+1 jewel is worth a lot more, and build already is very point hungry.

@darkfalldoon:

Max mana cost for 6l lvl 1 cyclone is 22 mana. No idea where did you take that 41. With 5L its only 16 mana. Cyclone cost is so minimal that it can easly be sustained with 10% unreserved mana. Not sure if ive noted it in guide, but Conquerors Efficency unblocks 3% from reservation.

BM on staff is not a waste. 6L spell costs way too much to sustain it on reserved mana. Im going to use staff as single target socket. Through im not yet sure which skill to take (now using FP). Can actually go anything with enough base crit, because crit staff nodes are global.

Currently working with FP. 13k in 4L but spamming it costs too much to sustain on my 70 mana left...


ps. Even thinking about crit trap with poison but have to rly think about it.

Thanks, this makes sense. I missed the note about Conqueror's Efficency earlier I guess. Just recolored the Coil BBGGG and you are right, cyclone is easy to sustain.

Awesome build, having a blast.