[Fast, Cheap, Easy] Insane ComK - for 2.1 Atziri Viable

but we (at least i) want to try/use it against bosses, so no splash needed. more space for dmg

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treitz wrote:

but we (at least i) want to try/use it against bosses, so no splash needed. more space for dmg

Yeah, I was responding to the guy above me who used just Flicker Strike and Multistrike to test against the masses and oddly didn't find it that great :P

I have edited the previous post for clarity.

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As an aside... I do want to also see for clearing (i.e., multiple-targets):
Flicker Strike - Multistrike - Melee Splash - COMK - Ice Nova

I'm not too far off 67 now - would have had it if I hadn't spent the weekend travelling and going to see the new Star Wars film!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENc_ftiUvgo&feature=youtu.be

Tier 6 with the setup you proposed

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EvilWiffles wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENc_ftiUvgo&feature=youtu.be

Tier 6 with the setup you proposed

Interesting. Ignoring the single-target situations altogether (Carnage in particular), the damage was good (great?) when COMK was easy to proc, but was lacking otherwise?

For bosses you would want the single-target setup (either in the chest or another Oro's), or use the Deadhand Talisman to make them spawn the worms for COMK. Carnage was your biggest issue in the clip, but that is to be expected without either of those things mentioned.

For mass enemies, either cluster them for Melee Splash to ensure that one enemy gets hit a lot (essentially, this is when COMK is easy to proc), or maybe just COMK isn't the way to go with Flicker Strike (or possibly requires a six-link). Cyclone's advantage here is that you can focus a weak enemy to proc COMK, whereas Flicker Strike is random if the enemies are not clustered. If only there was a Cast On Ignite...

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For using Flicker Strike for clearing try:

Flicker Strike - Multistrike - Melee Splash - WED - Fire Penetration

It should be pretty good, as it is a quite common setup for Flicker Strike with Oro's. If this doesn't perform very well something else entirely might be going on - Ignite chance and not enough maximum Frenzy Charges, maybe.

Pick up the Breath of Flame passive at the top of the tree if you are able (10% more ignite on that branch). It would result in keeping at max Frenzy Charges more easily (Increased AS via the Charges and via Flicker Strike, and More %damage). The +1 maximum Frenzy Charge bandit reward would have been helpful, but it is fairly expensive to change that.

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Could you perhaps post a clip with the Cyclone setup (Cyclone - Fire Pen - WED - COMK - Ice Nova), in preferably a similar situation (Tier 6 map with enemies that aren't strongly clustered)? This is so I can get a better comparison of the two with all else being equal.

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Lastly, the Flicker Strike single-target setup would still almost certainly be an improvement over the Cyclone COMK setup for single-targets:

Flicker Strike - Multistrike - WED - Fire Pen - [Life Leech/Fortify/Faster Attacks]

Should I drop AOE dmg passives and Blast Radius for Breath of Flames?

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EvilWiffles wrote:

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Should I drop AOE dmg passives and Blast Radius for Breath of Flames?

If it isn't too much hassle, yeah.

Also, anyone tried Detonate Dead instead of Ice Nova? I know the COMK %Increase Spell Damage doesn't affect it (sadly), but we have like +300% increased fire damage in total, doing 4 times the damage listed (x damage + 6% of corpse maximum life).

It is about 125 flat damage less than Ice Nova at level 20 of both (average of ~475 vs ~350), but 6% of corpse maximum life should easily cover that (it would require the corpse has 2500 max life or more - almost a certainty).

The only weakness comparatively would be the radius. Still, it would scale a lot better on the harder maps damage-wise (24% of corpse max. health out-scales the flat damage by a lot). I think it could work with the Cyclone clearing setup quite well using an Increase AOE support - although that requires a six-link. So, maybe its something to swap Ice Nova out for when you get a six-link and are tackling the harder maps.

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That said... Infernal Blow might be even better at this, especially since we have Oro's. Got to try that out.

Let me know how that goes. Flicker still leveling up and don't have anymore tier 6 maps...

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Aimeryan wrote:

Also, anyone tried Detonate Dead instead of Ice Nova? I know the COMK %Increase Spell Damage doesn't affect it (sadly), but we have like +300% increased fire damage in total, doing 4 times the damage listed (x damage + 6% of corpse maximum life).\.

Pyre removes the corpse so I don't think this would work, unless you used cold to fire gem instead of pyre...

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fantasydreaming wrote:

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Aimeryan wrote:

Also, anyone tried Detonate Dead instead of Ice Nova? I know the COMK %Increase Spell Damage doesn't affect it (sadly), but we have like +300% increased fire damage in total, doing 4 times the damage listed (x damage + 6% of corpse maximum life).\.

Pyre removes the corpse so I don't think this would work, unless you used cold to fire gem instead of pyre...

You wouldn't need Pyre if not using Ice Nova.