[3.2]Blink & Mirror Arrow Necromancer * Shaper down * Build of the Week * Deadeye version added*

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lapiz wrote:

A far stronger setup is to use victario's chest, you should check it out

It buffs your auras quite a bit and also lets you use haste and 2 blasphemies (having proj weak on blasphemies changes the char completely and lets you skip that junk quiver too)

The essence crafted helm makes your blink a bit better than a normal 5link.

My pob has more than double your damage on the mirror as an example (similar survivability and far greater utility/clearspeed with blasphemies)

Also curious.. What do you mean by essence crafted helm? And what 5 gems are you putting into the Victaro's chest??

What 4 gems are you putting into the helm?

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lapiz wrote:

A far stronger setup is to use victario's chest, you should check it out

It buffs your auras quite a bit and also lets you use haste and 2 blasphemies (having proj weak on blasphemies changes the char completely and lets you skip that junk quiver too)

The essence crafted helm makes your blink a bit better than a normal 5link.

My pob has more than double your damage on the mirror as an example (similar survivability and far greater utility/clearspeed with blasphemies)

Sounds powerful.

But don't you still need to cast split arrow for elemental equilibrium, anyways? In which case, blasphemy curses are not improving much.. I would rather have discipline in there, maybe aa. I imagine your build would have pretty low ES anyways.

I will try this setup later today. I believe i need about 20 reduced Mana reservation to make my version work.

Please post your pob!

I have 1300 ES, in most of high tier bossfights I end up taking too much damage and without mana or es to sustain my clones because bosses deal too much damage.
what if I respec out mind over matter, eldrich battery and zealoth's oath and put enlighten lv 3 to support the auras along with clarity level 1? mana would be like 170

The "dps setup": https://pastebin.com/Pa0jmUrc

The items are good but quite far from best in slot. With bis stuff you would get some life and a lot more ES as an example.

I really feel the new harbinger belt passively combined with the harbinger effect is way too good to not use.

Also I would probably use rearguard, bone offering and temporal chains (or enfeeble) as I only really play on hardcore. The build is extremely tanky with max block and bone offering effect. Getting the 100% pierce through the blasphemy aura lets you use stuff like rearguard and drillneck.

Btw the blasphemies are huge with victarios and all of your aura nodes. And yes, you would indeed have to shoot split arrow to proc EE, but it's not like its needed except vs the toughest of enemies.

I feel that your tree's defenses are a bit exaggerated. If you're using a Rearguard setup, you're barely breaking 6k life/1k ES even at level 95 with 6x minion damage+life jewels, >110 life on every armor slot, and tier 1 STR rolls on all jewelry. I mean for that level of investment in gear, I'd want far more than 7k total eHP at level 95, especially for a hardcore character. With your setup, a league-starter with less-than-perfect gear (i.e. an essence crafted helm that DOESN'T have +126 life) would probably expect about 5.5k life and <1k ES by level 95, which really feels quite bad unless you're spamming Shaped Strands..

Using Victario's + Flow Untethered simply sacrifices too much life and ES compared to a normal vaal regalia + leather belt. Replace those two in your PoB and you'll get >7k life and ~2k ES with Rearguard on, which is far more bearable for endgame.

An in-between alternative is to use victarios with discipline aura, drop the blasphemies, and instead of ranger aura nodes, grab more life/ES.

As you can see from my videos, DPS is not really a problem in my current setup, and I'd rather have eHP. But hey, I'm not a hardcore player, so you do you.

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dariidar wrote:

I feel that your tree's defenses are a bit exaggerated. If you're using a Rearguard setup, you're barely breaking 6k life/1k ES even at level 95 with 6x minion damage+life jewels, >110 life on every armor slot, and tier 1 STR rolls on all jewelry. I mean for that level of investment in gear, I'd want far more than 7k total eHP at level 95, especially for a hardcore character. With your setup, a league-starter with less-than-perfect gear (i.e. an essence crafted helm that DOESN'T have +126 life) would probably expect about 5.5k life and <1k ES by level 95, which really feels quite bad unless you're spamming Shaped Strands..

Using Victario's + Flow Untethered simply sacrifices too much life and ES compared to a normal vaal regalia + leather belt. Replace those two in your PoB and you'll get >7k life and ~2k ES with Rearguard on, which is far more bearable for endgame.

An in-between alternative is to use victarios with discipline aura, drop the blasphemies, and instead of ranger aura nodes, grab more life/ES.

As you can see from my videos, DPS is not really a problem in my current setup, and I'd rather have eHP. But hey, I'm not a hardcore player, so you do you.

You should try having max block and high level bone offering online. You can practically afk vs anything except bosses. It doesn't exactly matter if u got 6k or 7k life except vs 1shot bosses and volatiles.

I feel like you overestimate and misinterpret the 2k es as a defense. It is just a buffer against 1shots that has no guarantee of being up when you need it. Your build has very few real defense layers outside of the clones themselves. Your "EHP" is vastly different when faced with different situations (1 boss vs 30 monsters).

The main thing here is though that no matter what you plan to do, the victario's version is just better. I'm guessing you did notice the huge damage difference between the builds? You will notice it as well if you go and do one of the real bosses.

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You should try having max block and high level bone offering online. You can practically afk vs anything except bosses. It doesn't exactly matter if u got 6k or 7k life except vs 1shot bosses and volatiles.

I've tried max block. I've played variations this build every league since 1.3, including a 75/75 block version. I can say from experience that high eHP feels way better than block for much of endgame. Part of this is due to the nature of EB / MoM. With <1k ES pool, you are going to be completely out of ES after you take just 2300 damage.. which happens quite often. It really feels like shit when you're travelling between monster packs with no way to cast Blink arrow. And Bone Offering won't help with that. With >2k ES buffer you will feel a vast difference in consistency. This is something you can only understand once you've played the build in high red maps.

Furthermore, since Flesh offering works with clones now, you get better clearspeed and eHP with a non-block version. That said, I am not opposed to using Rearguard quiver and from 2.0-2.6 it was my preferred quiver. You just need a Pierce gem in your setup to have consistent clear.

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The main thing here is though that no matter what you plan to do, the victario's version is just better. I'm guessing you did notice the huge damage difference between the builds? You will notice it as well if you go and do one of the real bosses.

I.. kind of noticed? Victario's adds about 50% more dps to one clone, and about 20% more dps to the other - leading to a net increase of about 35% more. But in reality, I felt little difference. My clones are insta-killing most t15 packs already, so 35% more dps does not feel that significant. As I said before, I don't really need the extra DPS, I value 10-20% more eHP > 35% more dps. There is some value in having extra dps for bosses like Shaper, but against Guardians and regular maps I would rather have more eHP.

Finally .. the flask nodes. Your version requires you to travel to Charisma to get mana reservation, whereas mine allows me to get inc duration nodes and flask nodes. Arcane Chemistry & Profane Chemistry are HUGE for this build, because flasks are the only reliable method of sustaining life. Without these nodes/Bloodgrip/flask belt, your life flasks will feel puny and run out quickly.

In the end I am no hardcore expert, I only know what it takes to level the build to 95 on softcare. My current configuration is what feels most comfortable to me across multiple characters.

Hi there,

i'm trying your build atm, which is going quite nicely.
I'm relative new in 3.0 (only played in the early stages of the game, i recon pre 2.0)
One thing that i wonder is, why is it that you have only support-gems(and 2x faster attacks) in your bow, when i look under 'my gear' section.
I thought that all support gems would benefit my clones (since they use my bow), but this doesn't seem the case (this does work for some other mechanices).
Am i missing something here?

Thanks in advance!

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Hi there,

i'm trying your build atm, which is going quite nicely.
I'm relative new in 3.0 (only played in the early stages of the game, i recon pre 2.0)
One thing that i wonder is, why is it that you have only support-gems(and 2x faster attacks) in your bow, when i look under 'my gear' section.
I thought that all support gems would benefit my clones (since they use my bow), but this doesn't seem the case (this does work for some other mechanices).
Am i missing something here?

Thanks in advance!

No, I messed up. One of those faster attacks gems should be Mirror/Blink Arrow. I will fix it!

In what order should we level up the ascendancy skills?

Edit: Oops it was in the guide already

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dariidar wrote:

Ascendancy order - mistress of sacrifice > commander of darkness > spirit eater